ianrm Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 After messing up my passenger harness buckle trying to change it from left to right fixed strap, I had to send it to Luke to repair it (they charged a very reasonable £31 for a new buckle). During my conversation it was mentioned that Caterham only supplied left-handed buckles as standard. However I was told that if you send the unused left-handed harness back they will swap it free of charge for a right handed one. Might be useful if you want to avoid the ‘buckle on side of body work’ collision that is common with passengers getting out of the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Wilson Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 This confuses me a little, as Willans say on their website that they offer their harnesses with buckles on either left or right strap and clearly from this, Luke do too. So why don't Caterham order them as such? Peardrop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianrm Posted January 28, 2004 Author Share Posted January 28, 2004 I asked the same question, apparently it's for easy of ordering on Caterhams part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prs Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I changed mine over last year and it was fiddly especially getting the springs back in but eventaully managed. Typical response from CC re: ordering. Phil S7 SVN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul McKenzie Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I've read that it's easy as long as you don't enter it from behind 😳...apparently you just remove the label and a single screw underneath it on the front of the buckle Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prs Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 No such luck you have to take the whole thing apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianrm Posted January 28, 2004 Author Share Posted January 28, 2004 When talking to Luke about this - they took a very dim view of anyone doing it themselves. Apparently when the buckles and harnesses are produced they go through a rigorous safety testing process which obviously can't be done at home and could possibly have safety (possibly liability) implications if the harness or buckle failed in the event of a crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul McKenzie Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 PRS, Are you saying that Richard Price was telling porkies 🤔here Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonbell Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 I`ve sent harnesses to Luke for repair etc and to be honest they are so efficient and reasonable that it simply isn`t worth doing these things yourself. I had repairs and fixings changed last year for very little money and the straps were returned within a couple of days Have engine.......need car I`ve seen the future.....and it`s powered by duratec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumster Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Anyone got a telephone no. for Luke? Chris Alston www.C7CAT.com 1800 Supersprint Drive it like you stole it! 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prs Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Porkies not me Paul, ta for Heli coil link. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxseven Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Chris, Look here Simon Emmens Caterham and Pussy Photos here 😬 Edited by - Manxseven on 28 Jan 2004 14:44:09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Durrant Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Did my passenger belt last year, not too difficult and as for testing well thats for the passenger to carry out 😬 Mark D Su77on Se7ens Making plans for the 2004 Sprint Season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumster Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Manxseven, Ta Chris Alston www.C7CAT.com 1800 Supersprint Drive it like you stole it! 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Richard Price Posted January 28, 2004 Area Representative Share Posted January 28, 2004 I understand Luke "very dim view", but for anyone wishing to try it, this may help. here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul McKenzie Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Well done, Richard, that doesn't look too difficult to me , but maybe we shouldn't also replace brake pads, or steering racks, or any other 'safety-critical' components Paul Edited by - Paul McKenzie on 28 Jan 2004 19:05:12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casbar Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Except it might not be a bad idea to have a manufactures guarentee when we are talking about harnesses. Which you wouldn't have if you do a self help. Especially if you are trying to claim for personal injuries in the event of an accident, as we all know how some insurance companies like to wriggle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Richard Price Posted January 28, 2004 Area Representative Share Posted January 28, 2004 Paul, I think SOME people should not touch ANY THING on their cars. ❗ Edited by - Richard Price on 28 Jan 2004 19:22:15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave McCulloch Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Thanks Richard - saves the hassle of stripping it off the car and sending it back to Luke. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul McKenzie Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Richard, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casbar Posted January 28, 2004 Share Posted January 28, 2004 Richard Hope that wasn't a dig, I carry out all my own maint including a complete engine re-build last year. I just wouldn't screw around with harnesses. Mine are Willans anyway, so I don't have the buckle problem. Edited by - Casbar on 28 Jan 2004 23:09:28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Richard Price Posted January 29, 2004 Area Representative Share Posted January 29, 2004 Casbar, My post was a reply to Paul, and was being composed whilst you were posting. I understand anyones reservation about safety systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted January 29, 2004 Leadership Team Share Posted January 29, 2004 Hi Richard, Yes I did mine as well If you remove the harness lower sections from the car and get them on a good flat surface, it's a doodle to do - you'd be mad to sit in the car and do it. However, this means having removed the harness I'll need to send the car back to have it refitted because of the safety implications of doing it wrong The design of the buckle is such that you'd need to be fairly mechanically inept to make a real balls of it - just be aware of the safety issues and use a little common sense Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Richard Price Posted January 29, 2004 Area Representative Share Posted January 29, 2004 Hi Stu, That reminds me! You don't need to unbolt the harness from the car. The fixed strap can be removed by pushing the spring loaded retaining peg from behind using something like a jewelers screwdriver or a small allen key. There are holes in the back plate for this purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Pearce Posted January 29, 2004 Share Posted January 29, 2004 Thanks for that last tip. I just swapped my buckle over and it only took 2 minutes. Use small allen key in hole to release buckle from belt. Undo screw under sticker on front. Remove red knob Undo two small screws under knob Remove plate Swap fixed pin with the one opposite Reverse the above to re-assemble You'd have to be a right numtie to fsck it up Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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