Edited: Crossed with pikeyboy's. I read somewhere that the penalty for illegal plates are points plus fine but no plate is just the fine. Yes, that's the assertion I referred to in post #3. But a cursory look* didn't reveal support either in the regulations or in actual penalties imposed. (If I were adjudicating I wouldn't be too impressed by a defendant who I thought was deliberately breaking the rules compared with one who made a mistake out of ignorance. As the legal aphorism doesn't say: Nemo asinum callidum amat). Jonathan * Only a cursory look because I agree with your last sentence.