Agreed, I just purchased an ID4 (I say just, been on order for a year). It is an appliance, but at least it's not trying to accelerate 2 tones at warp speed. But it's horses for courses, it's the best family wagon I have ever had, although I have one specific concern with my dogs and the boot floor, but that's a different story. Green it is not, and I have refused to have the green flash on the number plate. Strange thing was UK Power Network increased the size my house fuse for free because it's a low carbon initiative, how dose that work??? As for the Seven, I worked out, based on 1 tank every two weeks over summer, push some tanks for the odd track day, that I could offset my carbon locally (not in Indian) with a charity that's planting trees in my county. It cost less than a tank of fuel for one year. Conn or not, playing for a tree to be planted, in the name of my years seven enjoyment is fine by me.