GTD Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 I had problems fitting a Brise starter - see previous thread. It turned out not only was the starter faulty but a cap head bolt was sticking on the flywheel and has caused a small score. A replacement starter has cured that problem. She will not now start - never been a problem before. I cant see that anything was disturbed fitting the new starter that now turns over fine but no sign of the engine firing. I have not yet checked for a spark but the fuel pump runs and I have tried reseting the fuel cut off just in case. Its a Rover 1.6 K with Emerald. The only thing I can instantly think is the there was a score on the flywheel and some fine metal dust appeared around the bell housing where the starter attaches. Could this have damaged the crank sensor and is there an easy way of telling? Is the ensor easy to replace or remove and check? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifty Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Your ahead of me GTD, I haven't managed to get mine fitted to the engine yet. Wait 'til I next speak to Mr "It's an easy swap" Brise ❗ ❗ *tongue* Keep off the straight and narrow 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTD Posted April 4, 2006 Author Share Posted April 4, 2006 Thanks Nifty. In the end it fits fine - but how you can call it plug and play escapes me. Brise did apologise and got me the new motor the next day. The cap head was completely counter sunk on the new motor and it also worked fine! However I am now really worried the metal filings caused by the grinding cap head have b******* the crank sensor - I just cant think what else is going on. The whole event has been a complete pain. Brise also want the old motor back (of course fine) but no suggestion of paying the postage. It is I small sum I know but not the point - but an issue for another day, particularly if the motor has caused the sensor to fail! Anyone any ideas on how to test the sensor please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Why not remove the sensor and clean it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Can't remember the history - have you got / can you get an Emerald plugged in there? That'll let you know if the crank sensor is working... Project Scope-Creep is live... Alcester Racing 7's Equipe - 🙆🏻™ Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Walker Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 If you have a crank sensor problem or the Emerald is not reading the flywheel pattern the small LED on the end of the emerald will not change from Red to Green as you crank the engine , it will stay red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Crank Sensor is magnetic, it could be covered in swarf, so cannot read the teeeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normans_Ghost Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Brise are not doing themselves any favours here. I had two faulty starters last year. The internal wiring had been crimped on and the crimp was failing. The 3rd one sent had the crimps soldered as well and has proved OK so far. The starter motors are japanese off small gennies (or something) with brise made gearing and housing ends to fit cars. Norman Verona, 1989 BDR 220bhp, Reg: B16BDR, Mem No 2166, the full story here You and your seven to The French Blatting Company Limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiddy1 Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 May be too obvious but have you checked the inertia switch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Carmichael Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 As per Rob's post, check the LED on the Emerald and failing that, plug a laptop in and see what the live settings show while cranking. In the old days, Emeralds were very sensitive to cranking voltage, so it might be worth making sure the battery is in top condition if you have been doing a load of cranking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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