Andy Checkley Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Has anyone got any recommendations for a supplier for the smaller (I think) 5 1/4 inch headlights? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Best Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Hi I think james Whiting does them in chrome or Black www.jameswhiting.co.uk Just beware he adds vat to the website prices, it caught me out in the past. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Checkley Posted January 20, 2002 Author Share Posted January 20, 2002 Thanks Andy. Ive just had a look at the web site and they are exactly what I was looking for. Ive never used James Whiting before, but I think that may change as there are a few other bits on the site that look interesting, so I think my "Winter" Seven budget may take a battering over the next week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Gillet Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Does it make a difference in terms of efficiency? Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatman Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 Anthony Stafford Vehicle Components. 01827 67714 (yes I know it looks like it's a number short.....) do the same lights too. Check the price, 'cos in the catalogue I have in front of me, they are £90 including VAT, per pair. That's for a halogen version. Sealed beam versions (although I can't imagine any-one buying sealed beams) are a tenner less. P&P comes to £7.00, but check the current prices like I said......... Westf1eld sell 'em too, and I know at least one blatchatter has bought 'em from our plastic friendsblush.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyedwardc Posted January 20, 2002 Share Posted January 20, 2002 When I checked W/field were, surprisingly in view of their reputation for value, considerably more expensive than James Whiting they wanted £70 each as mentioned James charges £90 per pair plus VAT. I swear the car now feels more lively at the top end but the headlamps are a bit of a bugger to fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Checkley Posted January 21, 2002 Author Share Posted January 21, 2002 Pierre, I dont know how true it is but when I was talking to someone on a trackday last year, they said that the drag/turbulence caused by the headlamps was worth 3bhp each at the top end. Whether this is correct or not I am not sure but they must make some difference. The main reason I want to swap over is purely cosmetic. I just prefer the look of the slightly smaller ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Flatters Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 Gary, why were they a bugger to fit. Did they come with everything necessary to install or did you have to pinch any bits off the originals? Edited by - Steve Mell on 21 Jan 2002 08:29:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Gillet Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 Thanks Andy. Relative to the difference in BHP : is it Large Vs Small headlamps, or Large Vs No headlamps? Also, is there a noticeable loss of lighting efficiency on the road? Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Checkley Posted January 21, 2002 Author Share Posted January 21, 2002 Pierre, I really don't know. I suspect it was based on with/without rather than a comparision of the the standard v the smaller units. I am sure that someone will be along soon who may be able to shed a bit more "light" on it. When I was originally discussing the headlights, the same guy said that the standard upright windscreen is worth 18bhp at top end. Again I am not sure whether this is a with / without windscreen or windscreen v wind deflector. Again I am sure that there is significant drag caused by the windscreen, although I am not sure how the 18bhp figure was arrived at. Although not scientific, I had an interesting run following an R500 on the Brands Hatch GP circuit last year in my SLR. My car has no windscreen, but the R500 did. We both exited Surtees at about the same speed, and I was surprised that I kept up with him down pilgrims drop which is a very fast part of the circuit, 130mph plus. I know that there are many reasons this may happen, but the windscreen v no windscreen may have played a part. I am sure there is some complicated maths at the bottom of this stuff, but I think its like lightening the car. No one single item makes a significant difference but all the small improvements do have a noticable overall effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I reply to every thread Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 Bugger to fit? Took me a leisurely couple of hours yesterday & that included re- doing all the wiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I reply to every thread Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 I can also confirm that JW is cheaper than Kingswinford Plastics. (The lamps came in boxes marked "W******ld" though!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Gillet Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 Thanks Andy, your point is welcome as the windscreen is another one on my list of future casualties! Cheers, Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Walker Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 I have just fitted a pair of the 5 1/4" from Stafford Vehicle Components, I am very pleased with the quality and can confirm that they are exactly the same as the ones supplied by W******D. Having returned the W*******D because they cost £50 extra. I beleive they also supply Caterham with the 7" units. SVC telephone number is 01827 67714. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Thompson Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 Could we fit the indicators inside the headlamp bowls too? I think "The Count" mentioned somewhere that he had done this. 8JU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Mears Posted January 21, 2002 Share Posted January 21, 2002 As you are all changing has anyone got any good condition chrome 7” lens rings to donate/sell to me. I have tried Caterham but am told these are no longer supplied separately. As mine are rusty they need replacing. These are the ones that locate at the bottom on a lug and a screw through the bowl at the top pulls up a retaining clip. Wipac / Lucus. Here's hoping. Pete Fast Zetec ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Barbie Posted January 22, 2002 Share Posted January 22, 2002 I have the James Whiting smaller headlights and I'm fitting Fiat clear side repeaters to the side of the bowl. The Fiat repeaters are small, have a good profile (think mini flying saucer) and have the right E numbers to be legal. They should sit flush to the bowl and look good. I have them because Arnie noticed his Fiat had them and they were a good design. The Fiat sourced ones are amber but aftermarket suppliers do them clear, mine were sourced by DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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