Steve Robinson Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Thing is Rob that 2 years ago Paul would have been in class 5, so maybe it is not too surprising that the times are coming down as whichever way you look at it the torque and the extra power of the 1800 will make them quicker. I would say things have got much more competitive (read more expensive) in class 3 in the last 3 years. I suspect what i'll prove this year is that you can no longer turn up in a standard 1600 supersport on ACB's and be in the hunt. Please don't read this as a complaint or criticism of the regs, it's simply an observation of how things have changed. I'll concentrate on learning the car this year and then spending £4,000 over the winter to monster the class next year Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil.cavanagh Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I'm a novice this year so no sour grapes! (yet!!0 The rules for 1600 and 1800 Ks seem pretty fair for class 2/3 and shoud ensure a even playing field. Only odd thing is that you can do anything you like to a x-flow, where as all I could do to my x-power 1.8 is fit verniers and a different exhaust. I for one know of a perfectly reliable 180+ x-flow that might compete at a sprint or two that I know my car can't keep up with over 90mph. 40 bhp is a 28% power advantage!! Now, if we could find a REALLY long track I would then have an advantage as the x-flow would have to stop for fuel every 5 miles! 😬 😬 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I think what i was trying to say/imply (probably very badly)was that currently in class 3 the car/engine combination that is leading the way is the 1800 superlights, and they are faster than anything the xflow and twinks have been able to produce before so complainging about those high powereed xflow/twinks is rather a moot point, IYSWIM 😳 Steve - possibly true but you do have the benchmark of your PB's and the previou bests by the unmodded 1600's to go against and I am not sure what car you could buy for 4K, am assuming you will be in a different car next year rob My MSN Space and Blog - Syndicate Using RSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver 21 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Guys What you are all missing here is a lot of this is down to driver ability, give a relative novice a 193bhp xflow and he will be slow, give an experienced driver the same car and its a different story. Money is better spent on improving driver ability rather than upgrades, Pauls car has no more power than other class 3 drivers so it can't be down to that. (No offence intended to the rest of Class 3 😬 😬 😬 😬 😬) Graham Lotus 7 Club General Secretary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 BB - thats my main problem 😬, so grumbling on here is the best way of disguising that fact 😳 isn't it great to resurrect this debate again tho My MSN Space and Blog - Syndicate Using RSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver 21 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Neil You are still missing the point somewhat with your comments about xflows, they simply do not accelerate or have the power delivery in the right places to be hugely competitive against the K's. I know this from bitter experience having had a xflow and competed in other peoples K series cars Graham Lotus 7 Club General Secretary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 BB - you just needed the power plant that is the subject of this thread thats all not that puny 1700 one kicking out 145 horses My MSN Space and Blog - Syndicate Using RSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver 21 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Rob Its my problem as well, but now my car weighs 420kg my excuses are going to be interesting this year. Before long they be trying to ban BEC's in 4 & 5 😬 😬 😬 😬 Graham Lotus 7 Club General Secretary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 excuse number #1345 , its a new power train to me and i am taking my time to learn the characteristics and the new sequential gear shift My MSN Space and Blog - Syndicate Using RSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 What you are all missing here is a lot of this is down to driver ability. Bu&&er, wasted my money on the yellow paint then Jeff Edited by - Jeff S on 28 Mar 2006 16:55:50 Edited by - Jeff S on 28 Mar 2006 16:58:06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Robinson Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 So who was it that started this debate (again) - I wonder Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 exactly 😬 Mr Competition secetary can we dock the owner of this thread 5 points per round please 😬 My MSN Space and Blog - Syndicate Using RSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 lets hope he doesn't see this thread here My MSN Space and Blog - Syndicate Using RSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Before long they be trying to ban BEC's in 4 & 5 I'll start a new thread 😬 😬 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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