Slarty Blat Fast Posted January 11, 2002 Share Posted January 11, 2002 I was just wondering, does the list know whether owners of VVC engined MGs and Elises use them for track days? Do they also fit Apollo-type tanks or is it different for them as they have transversely mounted engines? I know, I know, they don't go fast enough for it be a problem. But seriously tho'.... Slarty Blat Fasttongue.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Carmichael Posted January 11, 2002 Share Posted January 11, 2002 They have standard deeper sumps - that makes a lot of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Corb Posted January 11, 2002 Share Posted January 11, 2002 They dont have oil handling problems, just oil temperature problems. my mates 111s elise sounds like a bag of spanners after 20 mins on track. My new VVC motor is the MGF ECD3 version. It has an oil temp sensor mounted under the oil filter to nobble the engine performance when it gets too hot. Of coarse the oil doesn't get that hot in a 7 so I've left the sensor out of the engine and bound it up out of the way. I'm fitting an Apollo tank for now. I ordered it yesterday. Although I spoke to Pace today about a dry sump system today. Their system will be about £6-700. So its a lot cheaper than Caterhams. It'll probably work though. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted January 11, 2002 Share Posted January 11, 2002 " Oil doesnt get that hot " in a seven ..... I wouldnt be so sure Bob . Off the scale above 120degrees is not uncommon during track use . With the appollo the temperature will be even hotter due to the hot air coming from the radiator , plus the bleed off of .5 psi . Everything is a comprimise ??!! Tha pace set up wont be available till April , it does however feature 3 stage pump , std remote tank and does away with the existing oilpump , so some blanking work is required . Although the engine wont have to come out . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarty Blat Fast Posted January 12, 2002 Author Share Posted January 12, 2002 Where can I find details of the proposed Pace VVC dry sump? I don't see it trailed on their website. Slarty Blat Fasttongue.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper Posted January 12, 2002 Share Posted January 12, 2002 Bob, You're putting a dry sump on a VVC? I thought that wasn't possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Carmichael Posted January 12, 2002 Share Posted January 12, 2002 Of course it is possible. The Caterham setup won't fit because the pump is mounted so high up that it would clash with the VVC plenum, but a sensible arrangement with a lower pump can work fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Corb Posted January 12, 2002 Share Posted January 12, 2002 If its get hot on my first track day I've got an oil cooler waiting to go in. I've asked this question before. An R500 owner told me that his oil only gets overly hot when following other cars (i.e. cuts the airflow through the engine bay slightly. I thought the lack of dry sump on the VVC was due to aerated oil upsetting the VVC control mechanism. BC Edited by - bob corb on 13 Jan 2002 07:58:19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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