yankeedoodoo Posted January 4, 2002 Share Posted January 4, 2002 Oops, I mean sump question. My raceline dry sump has a fitting at the front which hangs down about 2 inches below the ali pan with perhaps 2 inches of ground clearance. This remarkable bit of engineering should result in an extremely short half life for the motor/sump. I would estimate a few hundred yards/miles as about right. Have I again installed a piece upsidedown/inside out, or perhaps all roads in the UK are perfectly flat and clearance is NEVER a problem? Alternatively, has anyone come up with a solution/fabrication to improve upon the original equipment. My offer for a ca. blat for all respondents still stands. Thanks for all assistance offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Wong1697456877 Posted January 6, 2002 Share Posted January 6, 2002 I use 14 inch wheels for road use and smaller ones for trackuse. The only other alternatives are to lift the front of the car (you need adjustable height dampers for this) or find a shallower sump pan (difficult if you have a zetec). Alex Edited by - Alex Wong on 8 Jan 2002 09:52:54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodoo Posted January 7, 2002 Author Share Posted January 7, 2002 Alex, Thank you for your response. Unfortunately, Vauxhall & K series are completely unavailable in the colonies, leaving crossflow and zetec as the only "conventional" alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen Posted January 7, 2002 Share Posted January 7, 2002 My observations are probably of little help, I do not know what the raceline dry sump looks like (I have a wet sump zetec) Whilst my wet sump is a little low, I have about 3 inch clearance, I find it puzzleing that you have a dry sump and have less clearance. The fiting that hangs down - what does it do? In my home grown installation the cam cover is just touching the underside of the nosecone, is your installation this tight? Have you spoken to raceline?, can you email a digital picture? Regards allen Edited by - allen on 7 Jan 2002 20:05:12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodoo Posted January 7, 2002 Author Share Posted January 7, 2002 The hardware was supplied by Raceline and is the oil inlet at the front of the sump. It hangs below the actual sump pan more than 1 inch. This will cause all nearby pavement to be covered in oil about 2 nanoseconds after I manage to shear it! Perhaps I should also mention the possibility of immediate oil starvation throughout the Ford lump and subsequent resultant damage.Upon examination it leaves one pondering, "Who dreamed this one up"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 Kind of makes me wonder if this was ever designed as a Caterham fitment, sounds more like it was designed for an escort or focus engine installation and they thought it would kinda do... I certainly would be speaking to raceline, quietly, firmly and at length, or at least as long as it took to get them to sort this. Regards allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deanteam Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 We have a Ford lump with dry sump, but the oil pick-up is from the sump in the centre and is mounted horzontally in the drain channel. The whole istallation gives much greater ground clearance than standard as the dry sump is much shallower, no need to retain oil! Just a thought, even if the fitting does hang down is the overall depth more than the wet sump? I have just looked at the Burton catalogue and they list sumps with front or back drain channels, could it be that the pan should have been a rear drain type, where the fitting would be protected by the bell-housing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Westie Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 Yankee It looks like you have the internal pressure pump system? I am surprise the fittings hang down low and you have so little ground clearance. I have a Pace system with front and rear scavenge pickups and the lowest point is the centre trough. Is there another way that the parts could be put together? The car in front is a Westfie1d wink.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeedoodoo Posted January 8, 2002 Author Share Posted January 8, 2002 Allen: My zetec installation sits 1-2 inches back from the nosecone. I have not spoken to Raceline. Deanteam: I am very curious as to whom the manufacturer of your dry sump might be. Mine is certainly lower than the stock zetec installation, although I have not measured the diference. Fast Westie: I am attempting to fabricate something to attack the offending orifice from the side rather than the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Westie Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 I am attempting to fabricate something to attack the offending orifice from the side rather than the bottom Doesn't sound like a good design at all. I don't believe the Pace system has the inlet at the bottom. If you need a photo of my system let me know, if not look here The car in front is a Westfie1d wink.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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