Mark H Posted January 2, 2002 Share Posted January 2, 2002 Arnie could you please tell me where you got the carbon head lamp bowls from? also as you seem to have spent more time and i expect money with arch motors do you know if its possible to have them convert my chassis from its early type front sus. to new spec so i could fit the latest wide track suspension ? Many thanx Mark smile.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted January 2, 2002 Share Posted January 2, 2002 Mark, I made them. Then I sold them and got some mean 5 1/4 inch metal ones from James Whitimg. The wide track will fit a pre 96 chassis, you just dont get the anti dive geometry. Personally my nonj-= anti dive chassis does not dive anyway...... If your chassis is Pre 92 (I.E a Spax damper chassis) there is a kit available to fit the top wishbones to give double wishbone front susp. Fat Arn The NOW PROVEN R500 Eaterid=red> See the Lotus Seven Club 4 Counties Area Website hereid=green> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Wong1697456877 Posted January 2, 2002 Share Posted January 2, 2002 You can have a the newer type brackets added by Arch. Talk to Bruce Robinson at Arch. The number's in LF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted January 2, 2002 Share Posted January 2, 2002 Little benefit - the anti dive was designed for the 96 super soft chassis to give ride comfort. Nothing else...... Fat Arn The NOW PROVEN R500 Eaterid=red> See the Lotus Seven Club 4 Counties Area Website hereid=green> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H Posted January 3, 2002 Author Share Posted January 3, 2002 Thanx for the info. guys . My chassis is an early de dion 88 vintage. Arnie i have to ask why did you go back to metal lamp pods after going to the trouble of making your carbon ones ?. Mark teeth.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted January 3, 2002 Share Posted January 3, 2002 Less drag..... I have theory regarding pressure changes around air filters caused by the headlamps. If you are seriously interested in carbon 5 1/4 inch lamps and can find at least 6 likeminded individuals we could copy the casing to the small ones in Carbon. You'd still need to buy the complete item from JW though to salvage all the fixings/lens etc...... Fat Arn The NOW PROVEN R500 Eaterid=red> See the Lotus Seven Club 4 Counties Area Website hereid=green> Edited by - Fat Arnie on 3 Jan 2002 09:44:26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike ashurst Posted January 3, 2002 Share Posted January 3, 2002 Arnie/Marc put me down for a set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H Posted January 3, 2002 Author Share Posted January 3, 2002 Arnie , How much do you think we would be looking at for the bowls? Re, my other question about the front sus. i have read previous threads about the extra bracket for the top bone fitment, But how can i run the wide track bones with my early top link set up ? Mark smile.gif Edited by - MARC HICKS on 3 Jan 2002 11:15:41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelspeed Posted January 3, 2002 Share Posted January 3, 2002 I'm running 5 3/4 inch bowls from W*******d (note it's actually 5 3/4 rather than 5 1/4, sure James' are the same). I'd be interested in bowls in carbon if the price is right. I recall you borrowed a 5 3/4 light unit off me many years ago to see if carbon bowls were feasible and decided they were not. What's changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted January 3, 2002 Share Posted January 3, 2002 Guess what - Grahams got me again..... 5 3/4 it is then! Graham, The thing that has changed is the supplier! He even thinks he could make the retaining ring for the lens in CF. Now, who has a pair of JW lamps unfitted which I can borrow to get a pattern quote made from?? Fat Arn The NOW PROVEN R500 Eaterid=red> See the Lotus Seven Club 4 Counties Area Website hereid=green> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Flatters Posted January 3, 2002 Share Posted January 3, 2002 Arnie, I may well be up for a pair of these, especially if they can do the rim as well. Apart from the lenses and wiring, what else would be needed to mount these beauties? Would we really have to buy the complete JW product? Steve Mell PTM 88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted January 3, 2002 Share Posted January 3, 2002 Count me in for a set as well !!! Incl. rings, if possible. Marius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H Posted January 3, 2002 Author Share Posted January 3, 2002 Arnie ,Im on for these depending on price smile.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Barbie Posted January 3, 2002 Share Posted January 3, 2002 Arnie I can lay off fitting mine while we look at the feasibility of this. I assume I should also lay off the side repeater holes ? Pick one up on Saturday.. If I get a pair, does that make six then ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted January 3, 2002 Share Posted January 3, 2002 would be interested price pending of course so that is 7 rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted January 3, 2002 Share Posted January 3, 2002 OK let me try and frighten you. The old CCC ones I used to make cost £220/pair for the bowls and we never got the rims to work. This price does not include making the tooling - I reckon that will cost min £1000 if we do the rim. So if we make 8 pairs we are looking at ((8 x £180) + 1000))/8 = £305 per set PLUS VAT plus £90 for the innards from JW. So you are looking at a min of £450 per set. YES the'll look very cool and they will be of very high quality, but are you really prepared to commit to this kind of price for a pair of headlamps??? Perhaps now you will understand why I have satin black lamps on my car..... Steve - Its too much hassle to obtain the parts separately, and I dont want to compete with James, just enhance his offering. Fat Arn The NOW PROVEN R500 Eaterid=red> See the Lotus Seven Club 4 Counties Area Website hereid=green> Edited by - Fat Arnie on 3 Jan 2002 18:24:09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Flatters Posted January 4, 2002 Share Posted January 4, 2002 Thanks for the cost analysis Arn. I think you're probably right, at this level of cost I'm sure we could find other ways of dumping £450 on our beloveds - se7ens that is! Thanks for the thought and work you've ovbiously put in here but I think, at this point, I will make a tactical withdrawal from the project. Steve Mell PTM 88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike ashurst Posted January 4, 2002 Share Posted January 4, 2002 Oooops, I'll echo Steve's sentiments Arnie, and back out now slightly stunned. I guess we just don't appreciate the cost of tooling. Thanks for you efforts anyway. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H Posted January 4, 2002 Author Share Posted January 4, 2002 Arnie thanx for doing the groundwork on this , But i guess its going to be a set of JW,s instead . smile.gif Mark teeth.gif Edited by - MARC HICKS on 4 Jan 2002 10:22:14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UGM Posted January 4, 2002 Share Posted January 4, 2002 Give Mark Oliver at Ratrace Motorsport a call (Tel: 020 8830 5677). We were there towards the end of last year, he showed us a prototype carbon head lamp bowl they had made - looked really smart. I think they had made the rim as well. Definately worth a call. JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Dixon Posted January 4, 2002 Share Posted January 4, 2002 Arnie, I have a set of the JW small 5 1/4 headlamps in chrome waiting to be fitted. Existing headlamp stays are away being powder coated along with some other bits and bobs. You are welcome to borrow them for a SHORT while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted January 4, 2002 Share Posted January 4, 2002 Geoff, I know you've been to Foremost. Dave called me and asked me lots of questions about you when you left.... So who's still up for them at the prices above??? Fat Arn The NOW PROVEN R500 Eaterid=red> See the Lotus Seven Club 4 Counties Area Website hereid=green> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 5, 2002 Share Posted January 5, 2002 I will shortly have a set of ex CCC carbon light bowls for sale Jason R500FUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted January 7, 2002 Share Posted January 7, 2002 Hear hear, why that ???? Marius, counting cash..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 7, 2002 Share Posted January 7, 2002 Marius I thought you might be intrested after trying to borrow them at the Ring smile.gif Jason R500FUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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