DomRees Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 soem of you may have seent he thread on Track Days in Chit chat. I'll need to upgrade the brakes, what sort should I get? The ones at CC look expensive to me. Should I bother with the rears? And is it easy to do diy job? Happily married to a 1990 Supersprint. Dont tell the missus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgrigsby Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 The AP 4 pot front upgrade is generally good enough for most people, you just need the right pad choice front/rear to get a good balance. Rob G www.SpeedySeven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Richard Price Posted November 11, 2005 Area Representative Share Posted November 11, 2005 DomRees, what is wrong with your brakes as they are? Big improvements can be made with a change of friction material and fluid. That would cost significantly less that a big brake setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRees Posted November 11, 2005 Author Share Posted November 11, 2005 New to all this, and I'm no mechanic (even though I think I know what you mean).. In barnyard animal layman's terms, would it be changing the pads and the brake fluid? If so, how do I do that??? Happily married to a 1990 Supersprint. Dont tell the missus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 As the long as the fuild is Dot 4 there's is absolutely no need to change fluid to Dot 5 unless the car is suffering from high brake fluid tempeartures through track work. Though I would always recommend changing brake fluid every 3 years at the very max..... its cheap to do. As Richard states I would try the pad root 1st... it is inexpensive and can give surprising results. The std front brakes are sierra single pistons. A good pad like a mintex 1144 will give the front more immediate bite and less fade at high working temperatures. Leave the rears std. you can upgrade the rr pad type aswell but I would start at the front and see how the brake balance is 1st effected by better front pads. Make sure the brakes are really well bled... no.1 priority. anxiously waiting for my new 2.3 SV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Plenty of stuff about how to change pads etc. (with standard brakes) here Project Scope-Creep is live... Alcester Racing 7's Equipe - 🙆🏻™ Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Dom, Your keeping the car now? Use Pagid RS14 pads on the FRONT brakes. Retain standard(?) rear pads as timbo mentioned. JOB DONE . Did James Whiting bleed your brakes when he serviced your car? It's a shame I am not around otherwise could have helped you. My friend Stephen's ( has the Supersprint ) car has the standard brake caliper, and we recently changed his front pads to Pagid RS14. He was VERY impressed. Gave him much more confidence, both on the road and track. We also changed the brake fluid to Dot 5.1 ( Comma ) as the system was due a change. Performance Braking in Monmouth can supply pads. Speak to John Freith - great knowledge and very helpful. Sorry, don't have tel.no. There is loads of stuff on brakes if you do a search of the techtalk forums. Perhaps get James Whiting to fit new pads. If you want a good motor engineer a bit closer to home let me know. Chok dee ( good luck in Thai ), Gavin. prisonR 43 C12 KAR - Some pictures here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Durrant Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Another vote for just replacing the front pads with Pagids Mark D Su77on Se7ens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRees Posted November 12, 2005 Author Share Posted November 12, 2005 Gavin, Yeah keeping the car now!!! 😬 SWMBA gave in, I get to drive her Smart when its miserable, and I then buy her a newish car for her. Win win all round. I quite fancy doing the job myself, it cant be that hard to do. I'll start researching Pagid pads and Dot5.1 fluid now, give me a nice little job to do next weekend... After that, the suspension...upgraditis is a killer... Dom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Day Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 Dom If JW serviced your car then ask his advice. However why not change to Pagid front pads & see how that pans out. Only change one thing at a time otherwise you're back into the great unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheds Moderator Posted November 12, 2005 Share Posted November 12, 2005 I second all the advice to optimise the std setup before spending big money on 4 pots etc. Mintex will sell you a set of pads for 30 ish and Pagids are an eye watering 120 an axle. Still, I've never heard anyone complain about them and they do last for a year or two. Finally, buy this month's Prac Perf car for some ads for fancy brake calipers etc. Someone has a solution to the rear handbrake-on-a-decent-caliper problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stijn LUYCK 1 Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Better pads at the front make a big difference ... try that first. Else this might be something to try 😬 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 This aint a MAX POWER forum 😬 😬 anxiously waiting for my new 2.3 SV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinS Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Yep, agree with all the advise so far. I changed my front pads only for Mintex 1144's and the difference was very marked and very satisfying for the ~£30 it cost and hour of fumbling to do. I wouldn't advise changing to dot 5.1 at first, flush out the existing dot 4 and see how that goes. I hear changing to dot 5.1 is a bit of a PITA 🤔 Cheers M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bricol Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Just a couple of things - the standard front brakes on my 2003 car are Triumph twin pot calipers . . . . the rears are single pot sliding Seirra calipers. I don't use it on the track, but it has had a lot of blasting up and down Alpine roads - hairpin after hairpin after hairpin . . . the standard fronts stay nice and cool and carry on working - the rears fade . . . As for Dot5.1 - that's what I use - it is as easy as Dot4 to use - it should be - it's compatible with it - it is just a higher spec - higher wet and dry boiling point. You may be thinkking of Dot5 - silicon fluid which is not too compatable with others and is not be rcommended - it doesn't absorb water like the others, but any water in the system will tend to sink to the lowest point - ie the calipers - and once there will boil at a lot lower temp than the brake fluid - the water doesn't too much for retaining corrosion free,nicely sliding pistons in cast iron bores either. Bri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinS Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Ah, that'll be where I'm getting confused. Thanks for setting me straight 😬 M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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