Jason Plato Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 here one question ......... how can we fit it in a Caterham 🤔 *eek* *eek* *eek* C7 TOP Powered by Hellier Performance 😬 South Wales AO Edited by - Dave Jackson on 12 Oct 2005 20:54:16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifty Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Isn't that Bernard Scouses car 🤔 And isn't it strictly speaking an Audi engine ? 😬 Keep off the straight and narrow 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted October 12, 2005 Author Share Posted October 12, 2005 No idea sorry Nifty ....the thread is here C7 TOP Powered by Hellier Performance 😬 South Wales AO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Corb Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Its a big lump, I had a look a while back, I dont think it will fit a 7 (a Caterham one at least). Donkervoort use it, is their chassis significantly larger? I wonder who makes the bellhousing for them, they use the Ford type nine box which is a start. A Donkervoort held the production car lap record at the ring for a few months, 7m:15s. Donkervoorts cost a fortune You can buy this engine with this level of power in a Grinall or Deronda too for R400 money. The Grinall will hit 170mph, thank god they fitted the extra wheel 😬, its a bit of an animal. The Deronda is fine looking machine, it appears to have sorted handling too. BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 I had this mail come through from Nigel Marston - posted on his behalf cos hes too tight to pay membership, and doesnt own a Seven anymore ( he will see the error of his ways ) "I’ve been looking at installing the VAG engine in an in-line application but I kept getting stalled by the following: Sump pan Bellhousing Gearbox (few can handle that torque) Dry sump Regarding the sump pan, I understand that there might be a Passat version which is in-line and bolts straight onto this engine. I haven’t been able to verify this and have even talked with Bernard about this who doesn‘t know either. I then started to look at a suitably strong gearbox. In the particular application I want I need a very short gearbox so a Quaife wouldn’t be much use, nor the massively cheaper T5. In fact the Quaife isn’t strong enough anyway. It came down to two boxes, one from Elite (not the one Alex Wong has installed – they do a much stronger box intended for rallying Escorts) and the DG400 one from Drenth. Both of these come with a Ford bolt pattern. In a Se7en you’d be best off using a T5 (for economic reasons), although I can’t verify just how strong it is (“plenty” I’d have thought given that it sat in the RS500). I eventually chose the Drenth because the Elite still wasn’t short enough, and I’d spoken with the owner of Drenth who said he could probably source a suitable bellhousing from Donkervoort (who use this engine/box combo too). I just need the chassis manf to confirm they can fit the Drenth into the hole left by the (horrible) MT75 box they currently use then I’ll place an order with all the relevant people. The only thing I haven’t resolved is a suitable dry sump for the VAG engine. I’d need someone like Pace to do all the sums. I simply haven’t a clue what’s involved. Mind you I’m not sure there’s enough room in the chassis I’m buying for an external dry sump pump yet. Anyway, thought you might be interested. Oh BTW the VAG engine is farkin’ heavy. There *is* an alloy block VAG engine somewhere and I’ve contacts with people who will build all the internals from the 1.8T engine into the alloy block if I wanted to, but the application I’m looking to use the engine in isn’t hugely weight critical. In fact given the problems with the VAG engine I’m also looking at the old Cosworth turbo engine. It’s not much heavier than the VAG and is designed for in-line applications, so doesn’t need a dry sump. New project here -> http://www.spydercars.co.uk/ Cheers, Nig. P.S. Happy if you want to share this with BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Walker Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Yes Dave very impressive. I have seen Bernards installations in the Elise and Exige and it looks a well engineered package with massive potential. He uses the Audi 6 speed box total cost is around £7500 for him to do the conversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 this spec engine in a series 2 exige is seriously tempting .......... shame you cant fit a tow bar for the trailer and se7en 😬 I bet it gets pretty hot in the cabin of an exige with 300bhp behind you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard J Darnell Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 £7.5k sounds like a bargain for that level of power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normans_Ghost Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Dave, are you sure thats not Arnies graph? (runs away) Norman Verona, 1989 BDR 220bhp, Reg: B16BDR, Mem No 2166, the full story here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted October 13, 2005 Author Share Posted October 13, 2005 Nah - Arnie would never go to Emerald's rollers 😬 not even on february 5th when he has an open invitation to attend . That nice Dave Breadcrumbs is attending though 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Well he'll have an engine in his car on Feb 5th won't he. Mine probably won't even have any skin on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash.Bailey Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 here we go lete get comfy bit of this here chomp chomp chomp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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