MikeE Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Edited by - MikeE on 29 Sep 2005 13:23:32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Durrant Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I think it is a case of you get what you pay for and these dampers are far better than the Bilsteins supplied by Caterham. I have used the Avo's for two years and these have helped me win Class 2 of the Club Speed Championship for the past two years setting a number of class records. Unlike Rob and Dave J, I have no trouble with changing the damper settings as I always start by resetting them to zero . I have no doubt that the Nitrons are a better damper but if your budget cannot stretch to Nitrons these are an excellent compromise. Mark D Su77on Se7ens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Unlike Rob and Dave J, I have no trouble with changing the damper settings as I always start by resetting them to zero. 😬 😬 😬 😬 smart 🙆🏻 *wink* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I think I did reset them to zero but still turned them the wrong way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fathead Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 just interested in your thread... what are the costs of the AVOs and the nitrons? - i bet theres lots of options but roughly will do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevefoster Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Was just going to ask the same comparative cost question as FH. Also, are Nitrons available in the short through the Dedion tube mounting form? Hants (north) / Berkshire club here Area meeting pics here My Racing here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 I think I roughly paid about 600 quid for the freestyle with the alloy bodies and speherical ends, including springs etc I think nitrons are over a grand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Bees Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 www.nitron.co.uk They quote different part numbers for pre-96 and post-96 Steve, so I guess the answer is yes. The only danger with getting the bolt-through type is if you DD tube needs replacing - the holes have been deleted from the latest version. £945 for one-way adjustable. £1480 for two-way adjustable. £1880 for 3-way adjustable. All plus VAT. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxseven Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 is that each 😳 🤔 L7 BDA Supersprint Joy here 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 manx - that should be 4 I would hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinwhitcher Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Yes that is per set , the one way is best, believe you me, you'll only get totally lost with 2 or 3 way Martin MW 51 CAT Superlight No.171 now known as:Superlight DVA 207 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevefoster Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 Mike, Arch will do a special upon request.... Hants (north) / Berkshire club here Area meeting pics here My Racing here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted September 29, 2005 Author Support Team Share Posted September 29, 2005 Costs were in one of my earlier posts but for clarification: Freestyle steel body AVO dampers and springs: £465 Freestyle alloy body AVO dampers and springs: £610 Freestyle alloy body AVO dampers and springs with spherical joints: £730 Nitron 1 way adjustables and springs (spherical joints): £1110 All above prices are complete including VAT. AVO dampers can be successfully deployed, as certain sprinters have proved, but I am concerned about their longevity and the repeatability of the adjuster settings. There have been technical discussions of the respective design of AVOs and Nitrons before and there is no doubt that the Nitrons are a much better product. I started this thread to see how the AVOs had held up and it is clear to me that there may be issues with their quality. I want this to be a one time purchase so have decided to pay the extra and get the better product. I do realise that I will need someone to set the car up properly for me. Yellow SL #32 Edited by - Shaun_E on 29 Sep 2005 13:25:53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinwhitcher Posted September 29, 2005 Share Posted September 29, 2005 If you want to set the car up i'm only in Romsey, near Southampton. Martin MW 51 CAT Superlight No.171 now known as:Superlight DVA 207 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted September 29, 2005 Author Support Team Share Posted September 29, 2005 Cheers Martin - hopefully will have the dampers and the car ready early November so will contact you then. Thanks. Yellow SL #32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrolhead Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Have you concidered Leda or Pro Gas NE7Club Web Site R5 no 65 😬 I am after low level tyre rack and jerry can box for Mino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted September 30, 2005 Author Support Team Share Posted September 30, 2005 I haven't. I am looking for a product about which there is a reasonable amount of knowledge and experience in the Caterham world hence the attraction of the AVO and Nitron dampers. Whilst there may not be as many Caterham owners using Nitrons as there are AVOs, there are a few and this counts a lot for me. Looking at the Leda website, they do have a specific setup for Caterham - anyone know the spring rates they use? They are in the same price bracket as the Nitrons. Can't seem to find much on Pro Gas Yellow SL #32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 The Freestyle setup is excellent, easily adjustable and repeatable - I thoroughly endorse it and have had no problems whatsoever after two years of hard use. I would recommend you consider the full Freestyle pack including front & rear anti-roll bars. In a minute you can totally completely alter the whole character of the car. I find being able to adjust the ARBs gives as much if not more control over the car''s behavior than the dampers alone. It takes quite a few track days in different conditions to find the optimum settings and even then it varies a little each session, so you need to tweak but if you keep a log for each session at least that gives you a good starting datum. And with the money you save, think of all those other upgrades 😳 It's not pink, it's medium red violet... 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyknuckles Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Leda suspension is very very good. It is fully re-buildable and the service from the factory is A1. I had Leda on my old scoob, but there was a significant problem with the application of the Leda suspension to a scooby (and to this day I am not sure if it was simply a problem with the scoob chassis), you could hear the suspension working via tapping noises throuh the chassis conections. It was that loud, you could hear it at any reasonable speed. I was told the noise is produced from the oil valve control mechanism in the dampers (very complicated design in the Leda apparantly). I seem to remember someone saying that he had similar problems with Leda suspension, but cannot remember the application, it may have been a Honda. Not sure if you would get the same issues in a 7 ? www.R300.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casbar Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 I had Leda's on my old live axle, they were spot on. Speak to James Whiting he did some development work on Leda's for sevens and spring rates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Williams Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Shaun, I run Leada's on my 1600 supersport and I am a class 3 regular in L7 club sprints. I bought mine from James Whitting who specifies 'valving for a 7'. I forget the exact price but they will fall between the AVO's and the Nitrons, they are a quality product and priced accordingly. It looks like wey live very close to each other so if you want to take a look at them or want to know what I thought of the spring rates I've tried let me know. Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrolhead Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Are the Ledas alloy Has anyone tried the caterham supplied upgrade kit here NE7Club Web Site R5 no 65 😬 I am after low level tyre rack and jerry can box for Mino Edited by - Petrolhead on 30 Sep 2005 14:59:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Williams Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 No Leada's are steel so not as light as Nitron's. Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petrolhead Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 That would discount Ledas for me then NE7Club Web Site R5 no 65 😬 I am after low level tyre rack and jerry can box for Mino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Bees Posted September 30, 2005 Share Posted September 30, 2005 Have you taken a spring off a damper and felt the relative weight of the 2 items? Certainly with the stock billies the damper weight feels insignificant compared to that of the spring. Ah, OK that was a rear damper where the spring is quite a bit longer (than a front). Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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