Phil Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 www.stormmotorsport.co.uk under wheels and then parts Ok More info now on page 2, would like a show of hands to find out how many interested to try and get a discount on a bulk buy. We need to show interst and numbers even though we will buy direct individually. Any pictures required email me akapmr@aol.com X/FLOW 1700 DD 1990 ROAD USE ONLY..SO FAR Edited by - phil on 2 Sep 2005 15:26:13 Edited by - phil on 2 Sep 2005 15:45:13 Edited by - phil on 3 Sep 2005 16:26:49 Edited by - phil on 4 Sep 2005 09:33:37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normans_Ghost Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Phil as far as I can remember it's 12 x 1.5 mm Norman Verona, 1989 BDR 220bhp, Reg: B16BDR, Mem No 2166, the full story here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 31, 2005 Author Share Posted August 31, 2005 In the magazine they say that ten of these = one steel nut, I find this hard to believe. Any ideas? X/FLOW 1700 DD 1990 ROAD USE ONLY..SO FAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normans_Ghost Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Titanium is much lighter than steel, whether it's 1/10th lighter, I'm not sure. Hang on, I'll have a search Norman Verona, 1989 BDR 220bhp, Reg: B16BDR, Mem No 2166, the full story here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normans_Ghost Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Design Concepts Overall, a vehicle weight reduction of 1% is claimed to give a reduction in fuel consumption of some 0.7%. Weight reduction in the moving parts of the engine is however likely to be much more effective in achieving improved fuel economy than body weight reduction. Titanium alloy density is some 60% that of steel, and the elastic modulus is about half that of steel. Direct substitution of steel parts with titanium is rarely the best way to proceed, but in practice should produce an immediate weight reduction of at least 40%. The low modulus of titanium is beneficial for springs, but component redesign may be necessary in stiffness limited applications. Specific strength, and likewise specific toughness and fatigue limits of titanium compare very favourably to both steel and aluminium alloys. Interesting. Ever thought about carbon fibre nuts? Norman Verona, 1989 BDR 220bhp, Reg: B16BDR, Mem No 2166, the full story here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Titanium is around 45% less dense! so the claims are not *quite* true!! Dannyboy 153bhp and 184lb/ft ??????????????????? My arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Gillet Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 And would it be necessary to use longer studs as for ali nuts ? Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 31, 2005 Author Share Posted August 31, 2005 Are the same nuts used for a live axle car? X/FLOW 1700 DD 1990 ROAD USE ONLY..SO FAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 31, 2005 Author Share Posted August 31, 2005 I have emailed Storm Motorsport asking for a possible discount for the club and for a free wheel nut to see the quality and show it around, well you never know. X/FLOW 1700 DD 1990 ROAD USE ONLY..SO FAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 31, 2005 Author Share Posted August 31, 2005 Result, they have just emailed me back and they are happy to send one down to me ASAP, cool . Hope the 12mm x 1.5mm is correct , thanks for your help. X/FLOW 1700 DD 1990 ROAD USE ONLY..SO FAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Gillet Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Exciting really Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrypike Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 shame they don't do them for the R500 wheels as i'd love some nuts that fit and don't break jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 1, 2005 Author Share Posted September 1, 2005 I have the r300/400/500 wheels 15inch and this is why I am asking about them. You say you keep braking them? X/FLOW 1700 DD 1990 ROAD USE ONLY..SO FAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slider7 Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Keep us informed Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DohNut Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 I think that Jerry was referring to the Mike Barnby 3 piece 5 spoke R500 wheels not the new grey (anthracite 🤔) 10spoke wheels. The MB have special nuts- dont know why or how they are special though Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Gillet Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 A steel wheel nut is 62 g that is 992 g for the 4 wheels. So that about 400 g could be saved Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash.Bailey Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Jerry - the stainless nuts from Caterham parts desk are OK . And good value If It aint yellow, wonky and wobbly ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 2, 2005 Author Share Posted September 2, 2005 Just received a couple of nuts, one with a built in seat at the bottom and the other looking like it is for Japanese type wheels needing a large allen key to do them up. Quality looks very good, black in colour and you can see all the way through the nut, top to bottom as there is no built in end cap. I am off to get them weighed and to fit one to my car, I will report asap as my car is stored at a different address. X/FLOW 1700 DD 1990 ROAD USE ONLY..SO FAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Gillet Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 The one that needs a large Allen key would be the one for the CC 13" anthracite 8 spoke wheels which need a very slim socket if a normal nut is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Howe Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 ... and they would be the ones I would be interested in. Sounds interesting - love these Club BB's, dont youi Norman? JH Deliveries by Saffron, the yellow 230bhp Sausage delivery machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Wong1697456877 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Check the blue book...... I thought wheel nuts had to be steel for sprinting etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonMac Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Does anyone know of any suppliers of the R500-type wheelnut in Ti? MB Racing only supply them in steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 2, 2005 Author Share Posted September 2, 2005 We have a weighing machine at work for paint making, handy really. Steel wheel nut taken of car originaly fitted with prisoner rims 53.5g x 16 = 856g for a set New light weight nut 20.4g x 16 = 326.4g for a set 856.0 - 326.4 _________ 596.6g saving I think the thinner style nut with the internal allen key and smooth outer will be slightly lighter, looking at the face of the standard nut I have tried there is a mark left showing how the wheel nut sits against the wheel and the thinner nut would easily do the job, I will find out the weight of this, sorry as I did not take it with me. Thinner nut outer diameter 19mm X/FLOW 1700 DD 1990 ROAD USE ONLY..SO FAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slider7 Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Check the blue book...... I thought wheel nuts had to be steel for sprinting etc. Are titanium wheelnuts not as 'safe' as steel ones ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 2, 2005 Author Share Posted September 2, 2005 They sell these for use on a lot of drift cars to complement the light weight alloys they use, think of the punishment they take. X/FLOW 1700 DD 1990 ROAD USE ONLY..SO FAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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