Kevsta Posted August 22, 2005 Author Share Posted August 22, 2005 Sorry to Mick...records firmly corrected. Don't know that suspension would be a problem (inboard)...can you fit an apollo? Grim reaper...that is what I am cerainly aiming for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL FLY Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Sorry Mic, that was my fault I got the wrong end of the stick from a discussion I had with Mick Smith. Roy. See willfly.net for more info. If you don't spin you ain't trying Happiness is knowing you have just a tad too much power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Cragg Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Emerald/TB's or dry sump that is the question 🤔 Add me to the list as a definite maybe. I will need to confirm funds but am very interested. Steve Superlight #63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevsta Posted August 22, 2005 Author Share Posted August 22, 2005 Put it this way instead... Emerald and TBs...car goes very fast in a straight line and your bearings get really knackered during the next corner as they are having more bhp to withstand without any oil...or...DS and take each corner as mad as you like as you won't be looking at your oil pressure guage and can concentrate on the road ahead...then when you upgrade to emerald and TBc next year you won't need to rebuild the bottom end too! (Depending on upgrades of course 😬) Not being pushy for more (as we have more than enough for the 5 but anymore will help us out to get more discount )...just trying to show you why we are going for it over such mods... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Cragg Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 I know that going DS is the sensible thing to do but it is putting reliability in front of extra speed. That's not a an approach I take very often in my life 😬 Having said that there will be a few more horses available when the crank stops having to paddle through an oil bath. Best option of course would be to do everything at once Steve Superlight #63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevsta Posted August 22, 2005 Author Share Posted August 22, 2005 Its up to you...you'll kick yourself if you don't though and end up with a rebuild bill and still not have a DS system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Cragg Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 No convincing needed really. I have already made my mind up that I should go DS - in fact I was in touch with Pace a few weeks ago to get prices. Only question is going to be whether I will have funds available in your timescale hence my earlier post. I would say that I am 90%+ sure that I will be a yes it that helps. Steve Superlight #63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CageyH Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Cragg Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Kev, Just a thought but it might be worth posting a link in the for sale section as well. Might get a few more viewing there that don't use tech talk. Steve Superlight #63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevsta Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Good idea...done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWoodham Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Kev, I'm interested subject to price. ref the TBs emerald vs DS argument, running the crankcase at a vacuum (as a result of installing a DS system) reduces pumping losses (air being pumped from one cylinder to another in the space under the pistons) and reduces losses from having an oil cloud swirling round the crank. IIRC from Bell, running the crankcase at a vacuum is worth 3-6% more power. So more power and greater reliability - you can have your cake and eat it! Martin Roadsports B If everything's under control you're going too slow (Emmerson Fittipaldi) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevsta Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 Exactly! Any more horses are always welcome and I will be confident in the oil reaching everywhere it should and so will probably spend more time looking where I'm going and may also go faster that way (rather than looking at OP all the time!) Sealed engine is what I have heard you can do whcih will allow this vacuum...I'm game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I reply to every thread Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 "so will probably spend more time looking where I'm going and may also go faster that way (rather than looking at OP all the time" Nope - your paranoia just switches to worrying that the belt might come off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevsta Posted August 25, 2005 Author Share Posted August 25, 2005 True...but I will have a big red warning light to tell me the OP has dropped to that degree...just have to make sure the sun isn't behind me! Ever the optimist eh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbutnotslow Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Kev, I have posted on another thread that I am interested 1.6k but not on this one and as I dont have a heater the cheaper tank that fits on the bulk head would suit me fine. Presume that a December order will result in a Jan/Feb delivery? Grant 😬 183 BHP of black and stone chip excitement. 😬 here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevsta Posted August 26, 2005 Author Share Posted August 26, 2005 Thats fine, I think they are open to individual needs etc so you should still get the discount on the bits you need. Name added! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsup Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Please add me to the maybe list have to see whats left in the piggy after USA2005 3 weeks and counting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 I've just fitted the Pace DS system to my 1.8 K. Here's my breakdown of the prices I paid. Pace dry sump kit £1009.04 Brise kidney shaped tank. Mine had several small additions that might have hiked the price up a little. £280.24 Filter head, Braided hoses & fittings, & a take-off for SPA gauge. From Think £361.64 Total...............................Gulp........£1650.92 Edited by - Davesport on 27 Aug 2005 09:24:29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Payne Posted August 27, 2005 Share Posted August 27, 2005 As a contrast a year ago I fitted the Caterham dry sump system but with a standard Pace dry sump tank where the passenger footwell was. The costs were (roughly) Shorten Passenger footwell plate £32 Dry Sump bits from Caterham £1050 Tank & Pipework from Think Automotive £225 That was with standard rubber oil hoses and a tank that Think reduced as it had a slight dent in it. Regards Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n balbach Posted September 1, 2005 Share Posted September 1, 2005 Please add my name to dry sump bulk buy K series with heater so need kidney type tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Day Posted September 2, 2005 Share Posted September 2, 2005 Hi Been watching this thread for a while. Will upgrade my K engine over the Winter so a Pace system sometime before Spring will be welcome. Not too sure what tank I will use but I guess it's the main parts from Pace that are part of the B/B. Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throbin Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 Kev, Having thought about this for a while I think I will join your list and start saving. I'm a 1.8 K with heater so will need kidney shaped tank. Cheers, Robin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Denmark Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 I would like to buy a dry sump system this winter so count me in. K serien engine narrow body & heater need kidney/oval Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelJ Posted September 6, 2005 Share Posted September 6, 2005 Kev, Just formally joining the list here following our discussions recently. NigelJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevsta Posted September 6, 2005 Author Share Posted September 6, 2005 Just to keep people updated, I've got around 10-12 pretty sures/definates, and 12 maybes. We were offered the discount on 5-10 so if we get these numbers to around 15 I would think the discount would be even better. Don't worry, no-one has to reply again saying interested, as the time comes closer I will blat mail you all to start asking for confirmation. Am in contact with neil at pace too so we're on our way to sorting it all! Regards Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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