_Tim_ Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 ...making a standard 1600K more powerful, what would you do? My engine is totally standard, but I have a 52mm Trophy TB and the Caterham 4-2-1 non-cat silencer. 120 ponies are no longer sufficient! I guess fitting an Emerald and a pair of Verniers would come in around that sort of figure, and be a good basis for further engine mods, but what effect would they alone have on the power output? Any other options? - Tim Caterham 7 - BMW E30 M3 - Nissan Navara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted July 15, 2005 Support Team Share Posted July 15, 2005 How about the K02 kit from DVA. Yellow SL #32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Tim_ Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 That blows the budget by 50% when you add the fitting and verniers though. - Tim Caterham 7 - BMW E30 M3 - Nissan Navara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Mill Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Tim Personally I will spend my grand on driver training. Unless you have already had masses of that already it could still give you the best bang for you buck (especially since it would work on the Beamer and the Nissan as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Tim_ Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 I'm sure it would, but for the purposes of this discussion I'm interested only in making more power from my engine. (besides taking 2nd place in last years Academy I'm not doing too badly on that front anyway ) - Tim Caterham 7 - BMW E30 M3 - Nissan Navara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilyhands Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Cams and verniers would be a sensible upgrade. You dont have to buy them from me . oily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Mill Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 OK - I would think a Dave Andrews/Ivey big valve job and gas flowing of the head would easily fit in your budget even if you start with a spare head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Tim_ Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 Dave, presume you'd be talking the Piper 'fast road' cams there? As a ball park figure what gains would you expect to see given my current induction/exhaust setup? I actually want to end up with your K05 kit over time, but financial contraints currently mean I cannot do it in one go. I know this will mean I will end up spending more than is necessary, but, the payoff of having incrementally more power over a period of time is a fair trade-off for me. - Tim Caterham 7 - BMW E30 M3 - Nissan Navara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilyhands Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 With the right work, even a head with stock valves can flow enough air for 190BHP so big valves arent essential. A fully ported head with stock valves and cams should give around 150BHP on a 1600. Just the cams on their own with your current setup should give around 135BHP+. Fast road is a generic term and covers about 7 different profiles, the tamest are BP270s and the hottest are 669s, 633s are ideal if further upgrades are planned since they will work equally well with a plenum and TBs albeit differently timed. Cams & verniers first, then maybe head later and exhaust manifold, followed by TBs/ECU. Oily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Tim_ Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 You have blatmail. - Tim Caterham 7 - BMW E30 M3 - Nissan Navara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Mill Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Hi Oily So, with a dye grinder and the knowledge you can get 150BHP? - sounds great! (I guess you mean with the TBs, exhaust and the ECU upgrades as well)? Edited by - Colin Mill on 15 Jul 2005 12:07:04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilyhands Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 You can get 150BHP+ with a 'die' grinder and cams, with TBs, ECU etc you can get up to 180BHP if you are lucky (from a 1600 with SS/633 cams), the best I have seen from head and cams from a 1600 is 158BHP, with TBs 183BHP. With hotter cams and more head work you could get 190BHP+. Oily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbutnotslow Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Yep and mine is the 183 😬 Took it for some exercise at Snetterton TD yesterday evening. Still grinning now!!! 😬 Edited to say- Dry Sump Grant 😬 183 BHP of black and stone chip excitement. 😬 here Edited by - oldbutnotslow on 15 Jul 2005 14:16:47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Bees Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Does Snetterton Motor Club still do track evenings at the circuit??? When/how/etc? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Tim_ Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 Not sure who organised yesterdays (wish I had known as I live even closer to the circuit now!), but I have recently been on a Javelin evening session at Snett. - Tim Caterham 7 - BMW E30 M3 - Nissan Navara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Mill Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Thanks - all I need now is a spare head and lots of spare time 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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