Weirdy Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 OK so apart from the screaching like a loose belt the clutch cable is loose to the bite point is too low and I keep stalling... it was fine until yesterday... So How do I tighten it? and how do I find out what the sreaching noise is? I have to admit it sounds like the water pump 🙆🏻 ☹️ I shall attempt to bring her on Thursday to the F&G so if your going you can help me puzzle through it.... cheers Weirdy Its not the winning thats important, its the taking them apart....... Edited by - weirdy on 15 Jul 2005 16:24:39 Edited by - weirdy on 31 Jul 2005 10:59:39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Paul Richards Posted July 12, 2005 Area Representative Share Posted July 12, 2005 Adjustment of clutch is by locknuts on cable adjacent to bellhousing. Is this squeal when you put your foot on the clutch. It very much sounds like the clutch release bearing!! Paul Richards Joint AO - L.A.D.S. (Lancashire and District Sevens) Growing old is compulsory - Growing up is optional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F355GTS Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 two bottom nuts wind them towards the bellhousing then lock them together Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Erm, You have a choice... you can either adjust the two nuts at the bellhousing end, or at the pedal-box end. The result is the same. The squeel could just be due to the fact that the clutch isn't releasing fully - i.e. it is dragging. Project Scope-Creep is live... Alcester Racing 7's Equipe - 🙆🏻™ Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdy Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 OK, Will go and tighten the clutch cable in a short while, the screatching comes from the front of the engine and only happens at low revs and idle... I checked the belts and they are tight enough to TWANG if you know what I mean, hence thinking it was the water pump, I recall the sound is similar to the screatching I had on my old ford, that was a water pump issue. NOW if the thermostate from the RAD worked I would know for sure..... Right of to sort the clutch cable out and see if that stops the screactching....cheers Weirdy Its not the winning thats important, its the taking them apart....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdy Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 OK, that was EASY 😬 and given how ermmm, technical I am... well thats sorted the stalling issues as the bite point is back at the top, I still can help feeling she's not 100% though as the screatching is lessened but now sounds like grinding ☹️ So where is the water pump? is it easy to swop out, and given the over heating of her when I first bought her I am inclined to swop it out anyway, one less thing to worry about.... Thank goodness I had something to do this afternoon, at a loose end...... Weirdy Its not the winning thats important, its the taking them apart....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyknuckles Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Howard, bring it down to the meet on Thursday, I'm sure we can help identify the noise www.R300.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdy Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 Dave Yeah that was the plan, alot of tyre kicking and listening.... I can't hear it myself properly as I have to drop the clutch so the CRB rattle doesn't obscure it, I am hoping I am just over sensative to stuff right now and this is one of them things.... 😬 Weirdy Its not the winning thats important, its the taking them apart....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 So where is the water pump? is it easy to swop out, Look at the top-right piccy here Do you see the cog halfway up on the left of the engine? That's the water-pump - so to change, you'll have to remove the cambelt/covers, change the pump and then replace and retime the cams (for good measure). Not the easiest job in the world, but not engine-out either. Project Scope-Creep is live... Alcester Racing 7's Equipe - 🙆🏻™ Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdy Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 Myles, EPP, OK that looks like a dismantle the front of the car to get access to the panel covering the belts.... Maybe I shall wait for the pump to fail, OH NO if I do that the engine could seize..... *argh* catch 22... Thanks for the picvcie I will have a look tomorrow to see if its doable.... with my tools and level of Skill 😬 Weirdy Its not the winning thats important, its the taking them apart....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdy Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 Well after some scratching of heads I have convinced myself the clutch is the issue. The noise goes when I slightly touch the clutch peddle. Its a grinding noise? The rev and speed are not as they should be, the accelaration isn't thier and after many expert ears listened to the engine and said it sounded fine.... I am convinced? maybe, BUt I want to change the water pump anyway as its over heated so many time I reckon its stuffed. So has anyone change the pump before on a 'K'? and if you have do you fancy helping? The clutch though is a different matter, how can I pin this down? has anyone had thier clutch changed and if so how much did it cost? Thought feed back, sarcasm and of course light hearted banter welcome 😬 Weirdy Its not the winning thats important, its the taking them apart....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdy Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 BTTT 😬 Weirdy Its not the winning thats important, its the taking them apart....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Mill Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 If the noise goes with a very slight pressure on the pedal could it be the clutch thrust bearing slipping on the clutch release fingers? Could be that your preload spring is weak or missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdy Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 Colin Great, so how do I check? How do I get it sorted? I tightened up the cable when it went really baggy.... and I have a high bite point that I like.... Do you have pictures, referances etc.... Getting excited it could justy be a simple spring, with a take the car apart fix LOL 😬 Weirdy Its not the winning thats important, its the taking them apart....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdy Posted July 15, 2005 Author Share Posted July 15, 2005 Actually the noise starts when I slightly depress the pedel, so maybe not then.....# BUMS Weirdy Its not the winning thats important, its the taking them apart....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Rule of thumb seems to be: Noise when pressing pedal = CRB (or clutch) = something to investigate and remedy Noise when no pressure on pedal = layshaft rattle = TADTS. Project Scope-Creep is live... Alcester Racing 7's Equipe - 🙆🏻™ Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Mill Posted July 15, 2005 Share Posted July 15, 2005 Hi Weirdy Oh hell - it sounds like the CRB. Its still worth checking what the state of play with the preload spring is. Take the top off the pedal box and its right there between the clutch pedal and a hole in the lip of the pedal box. John Vine did a really good article about the preload thing in LF about 12 months back (I'll try to turn up my copy). From my notes I have that the spring should put about 4kg force of tension in the cable to attain the right pre-load. (Measured in my case with a spring balance and a bit of string) I shortened mine up quite a bit to get this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdy Posted July 16, 2005 Author Share Posted July 16, 2005 the spring seemd fine when I tightened the cable, but the cable was loose and is still a bit not taught if you know what I mean.... Well if it is the CRB how else can I check? Weirdy Its not the winning thats important, its the taking them apart....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Mill Posted July 16, 2005 Share Posted July 16, 2005 Hi Weirdy That sounds strange as, if the pedal is not binding on its pivot the only thing that should be balancing the spring force would be the tension in the cable so if the spring is pulling on the pedal OK and the cable is slack it begs the question where the hell is the force going? I think you need to have the top off the pedal box again and give it all a good coat of looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdy Posted July 18, 2005 Author Share Posted July 18, 2005 Colin, OK, MIssus Weirdy and myself are convinced thiers somehting up with the clutch, it makes a grinding noise when depressed and the car seems to be working overtime for it to get anywhere, speeds and revs don't match the norm either. No Batwatch for me then ☹️ Weirdy Its not the winning thats important, its the taking them apart....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Mill Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Hi Wierdy Sorry to hear it but its sounds most unhealthy. Time to blow the dust off the engine hoist again. You could probably get it done overnight if you were prepared to go without sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdy Posted July 18, 2005 Author Share Posted July 18, 2005 Colin IF Missus Weirdy allowed me to do such work I would be saving money hand over fist, but would also have NO idea what I was doing..... Well Hyperion have said 320 to take the engine out, plus 150 for the clutch KIT plus VAT! so about 600 notes then, need to get a weeks worth of work in addition to survival work money to pay for it.... Does anyone know what the average price for clutch replacement is? Weirdy Its not the winning thats important, its the taking them apart....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Mill Posted July 18, 2005 Share Posted July 18, 2005 Hi Weirdy 150 notes sounds quite expensive for the bits assuming all you need is a new release bearing and driven plate - have they given you a breakdown of what the clutch kit consists of? Looking on the web for other clutch kits it sounds like £150 will be for the full monty including the cover assembly which I would expect to be OK unless you have been very naughty with it Edited by - Colin Mill on 18 Jul 2005 20:16:01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdy Posted July 20, 2005 Author Share Posted July 20, 2005 Colin Dunno, I will ask them IF and when I have the money to do it, I may ask them for a written Quote and breakdown... Contrary to what I have heard from other members I do trust them not to RIP me off and they have done me some amazing deals when funds have been short.... Perhaps when we move I will consider changing garage, so suggestions in the Romford area anyone? Weirdy Its not the winning thats important, its the taking them apart....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Boy Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Howard, why don't you try Steve Parker in Stansted? I've only used him the once and found him very friendly, helpful and knowledgeable not to mention noticeably cheaper than Hyperion. I would be more than happy to use him again. I know that Mark and Jennie Piper have taken their cars to him too and been happy with the work. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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