Ross_H Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 If I were contemplating a blackbird to duratec conversion (I've read all the pros and cons on here and think this works best for me) who would anoyne recomend to do the work as I have neither the time or skill to do it myself...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain A Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Hi Raceline or Mick Attree are both highly recommended Are you sure it is going to be mad enough after the Blackbird?? One of the Duratectives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross_H Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 will raceline do the work or just supply the parts... others i was thinking of were freestyle, ammo, 7 w/shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Bees Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 It'd be a shame to break a 'real' Blackbird. Wouldn't it be cheaper to sell it and buy a lesser (cheaper) engined car to convert? Remember that you'll need to buy a gearbox, change the diff, probably change the (rear) wheels etc. There won't be that much left... Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobuy Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Raceline will only supply parts, Ammo will build you an engine, Mick Attree can do the lot as he has already done several very nicely turned out examples. Duratec SV, built in Dubai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I reply to every thread Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Mick or Freestyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Elizabeth Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 7 workshop would no doubt do it for you. It is madness however, sell it and buy another will be far far cheaper. You will need to change lots of bits. The (slow) birth of the Gixxerham : Pics here now with extra drivel here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeE Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 er, no Raceline will build you the engine as well (but they won't fit it) R400 Duratec Build and Modification Pictures here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross_H Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 i know it seems silly... but its a nightmare trying to sell a blackbird, i've tried a twice, i rekon i'd get 16k for it, which is silly really given It's got all the bits i want (cage, bag tank, airbox, exhaust). I'm sure to build a duratech to the same spec would cost 30k plus... so surely i'm better off converting it for £10k? i suppose another alternative is to buy a starter kit and swap over some of the better bits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgrigsby Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 The 7 Workshop did mine with a RaceCo engine, depending on the spec of engine 10k may or may not be enough to convert. I guess you've got a fairly recent dedion chassis? either way it's a LOT of work to get it installed although it is getting easier. I was in the same situation as you except my car had an Xflow in it, I think it's probably worked out ok for me with the conversion as to build a car with the bits I've got on mine would have cost loads. Rob G www.SpeedySeven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Piper Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Ross, for £21k you can have Graham's car - advertised in these classifieds. Surely a cage, bag tank and whatever else can't cost you £10k on top of that?...Plus can you really reuse the Blackbird exhaust on a Duratec? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Mupferit Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 My experience with the Duratec shows that £10k would definitely be on the light side. By the time you factor in the engine itself, alternator, starter motor, new sump, engine mounts, flywheel, clutch, bell housing, gearbox, exhaust system, ECU, loom, radiator, hose set, hydraulic master and slave cylinders for clutch, throttle bodies, throttle cable etc, etc, you are well over your proposed budget. I would agree with Mark that you are better off selling the Blackbird and buying the one that's for sale. Brent 2.3 DURATEC SV R 417.39 😬 Edited by - BRENT CHISWICK on 9 Jun 2005 15:01:32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross_H Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 good point... nice car, I'd still have to sell mine though. Also, by the time you add SLR cage+ fitting + new scuttle, Bag tank+ fitting, dry sump (dosen't say that on the ad.) bigger wheels etc. etc. you get close to 27 / 28k... it is a close call though, and probably a lot less hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 what year is the 'bird ? would its age be of benifit for emissions etc ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrino Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Are you seriously contemplating a conversion to get a better reverse Bite me 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross_H Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 no...not just the reverse... several reasons it's 2000 car, built from new. am coming to the conclusion that this is silly... when u can get a new csr for 28k.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeE Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 yes you can get a new CSR for £28K but you'd have to build it yourself and it wouldn't include any luxuries such as paint and more to the point any of the necessary track mods you listed, so you'd be in the region of £35K for a 200bhp tracked up CSR. IMHO you should sell the Blackbird and get someone like FreeStyle (or Mick Attree) to build you a track spec 250bhp Duratec from a starter kit. R400 Duratec Build and Modification Pictures here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross_H Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 agreed...thats sort of where i'm getting to for which mr dobuy's website is very useful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeE Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Ross, I see you're in Twickenham, not so far from me. If you want any advice or to see a Duratec car give me a shout. Worth noting that Raceline are in Guidlford which is fairly local to you as well. BTW - Was it you and your Blackbird at the PHs Folembray trackday a couple of years ago 🤔 cheers R400 Duratec Build and Modification Pictures here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross_H Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 Hi Mike, that would be great. My car's on hols in my dad's garage in North Wales at the mo, but i'm plotting its return as we speak... Yes that was me...good day that one...what were you driving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeE Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I was either in a blue aeroscreened superlight or a swordfish spec Tuscan, can't remember as it was one of the 3 PH days I did there. R400 Duratec Build and Modification Pictures here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dobuy Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Ross, Can you not nick all the good bits off your current car like the SLR cage and sell your Bird with a lesser spec? P.S. I can sell you a nice Raceline 2.0 engine with 226bhp complete with BGH gearbox all with only 2000 miles on them The 2.3 is ready to go in Duratec SV, built in Dubai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross_H Posted June 9, 2005 Author Share Posted June 9, 2005 as long as i haven't got to come and collect it that might not be a bad plan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 ISTR it would cost more time than money to ship it back. Project Scope-Creep is live... Alcester Racing 7's Equipe - 🙆🏻™ Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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