Dave McCulloch Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 Fitted this today, and the braided pipe is quite badly twisted with the two ends connected to the apollo and cam cover respectively. There doesn't appear to be any way of rotating the end fittings. Is this right/ok? Ta Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Day Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 Shouldn't be. Carefully check all the fittings as there must be a way to allow the hose to "lie" without any twist. Fitted mine sometime ago & don't remember this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bafty Crastard Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 Yes your right there is no movement in the connection at either end, this results in twist in the braided hose….I know it’s cr-p! The R300 NUT'errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beelzebub Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 Are the hose ends swaged on, or are they the re-useable type ? that can be undone ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old captain slow Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 The end of the hose connected to the top of the tank will be under pressure and needs to be fully nipped up whereas the other end into the cam cover is not as it's just a vent at that end so only needs to be secure. As far as I recall it's posible to fiddle with the nipping up of the cam cover end to get rid of the twist. C7 CDW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bafty Crastard Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 The hose and both connectors are a solid unit. When one end is connected to the Apollo the 90 degree connector ends up facing the wrong direction, in order to connect the 90 degree connector to the cam cover thread you will need to twist the hose which results in a kink. Cant see what’s to fiddle with Both the connections are under pressure relative to atmospheric pressure, the differences between the both being friction loss of the hose between one end and the other The R300 NUT'errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr If the conections were of the "union" type there would be no problem, the hose connections would be free to turn and line up correctly Edited by - Bafty Crastard on 15 May 2005 08:07:46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bricol Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 I too don't remember this problem - mine must have had a free union nut style fittings. However, if the hose ends are made up with screwed fiting, back the clamp nut off holding the hose into the main fitting and twist the hose to suit- then re-tighten. If it's a swaged cap holding the hose into fitting, these too can be adjusted - grip the swaged sleeve with small stilsons and twist - the swage is only holding the hose for coming off a ribbed hose tail However, be careful the swaged section isn't part of the actual fitting as twisting it will have the desired effect of removing the hose twist but will do it by removing the hose and swage from the main fitting! Bri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted May 15, 2005 Leadership Team Share Posted May 15, 2005 Bafty - only the tank end is under pressure because there is a valve in one of the fittings however I do believe both ends should be tight anyway! Dave, they're all the same, everyone that I've seen has the loop in the hose to fit the elbows correctly. It would appear that the orientation of the fittings is approaching 90º out Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bafty Crastard Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 A non-return valve/pressure reducing valve?...didn't know that...thanks Edited by - Bafty Crastard on 15 May 2005 08:16:46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Locust Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 There is an orifice of approx 1mm in the fitting on top of the tank. Some people have also fitted a check valve here to minimise draining back of the tank during (prolonged) non-use but this isn't standard. Ian Green and Silver Roadsport 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old captain slow Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Mines got a free to rotate union at the cam cover end. C7 CDW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifty Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Mine has a union at the tank end *confused* It fits very nicely, with the only twist being the one I deliberately put into it to keep it below the bonnet height and thus avoid rubbing. Keep off the straight and narrow 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave McCulloch Posted May 15, 2005 Author Share Posted May 15, 2005 Thanks all - sounds like they've changed the fittings and both ends are now fixed - crap piece of design... Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old captain slow Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Could be the same pipe but fitted the other way round depending on your inclinations. 🤔 C7 CDW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Woods Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Mine has a twist in it but I didnt need to loop it - photo here Nick Red and Black 1.6K supersport visit Carrotland.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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