Area Representative z7 Posted October 25, 2001 Area Representative Share Posted October 25, 2001 I'm (reliably) informed that my fuel pump is showing typical signs of complete failure. So, I'm looking to replace it. I have an approx 160bhp, 2l Zetec with 45's and currently a cylinderical Facet pump (gold looking to me). From searching the archives this is not a new problem. However, I'm not clear on what to choose for a replacement and was hoping you guys could help. I've seen mention of various options but no specific models (if I'm not mistaken). Also, can anyone recommend a supplier in the South London area? Looking forward to journeys of longer than 30mins again sad.gif Thanks Adil Novice wannabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian balson Posted October 25, 2001 Share Posted October 25, 2001 Adil, I replaced my Facet Solid state pump with one of the same (the square one in the DT catalogue). The first had lasted 7 years, so a straight replacement seemed a good idea. I run a standard VX on carbs. I believe there have been some issues with the cylindrical models. Regards Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fast Westie Posted October 26, 2001 Share Posted October 26, 2001 Adil Get a Weber one from James Whiting The car in front is a Westfie1d wink.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted October 26, 2001 Share Posted October 26, 2001 I think the cylindrical ones will sieze if they run dry. The sold state Facet pumps are good gear for a carburated car. Fat Arn The NOW PROVEN R500 Eaterid=red> See the Lotus Seven Club 4 Counties Area Website hereid=green> Edited by - Fat Arnie on 26 Oct 2001 10:46:13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Rich_Bernie Posted October 26, 2001 Share Posted October 26, 2001 Southern Carbs are in South London and probably stock such things. 0208 540 2723 http://www.racecar.co.uk/southerncarburetters/ They are near South Wimbledon tube station so might be more convenient than James Whiting. cheers Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative z7 Posted October 26, 2001 Author Area Representative Share Posted October 26, 2001 Thanks for the reply guys. However, I have a few more questions: 1 - I'm conluding from your replies that I don't have a solid state pump currentlyquestion.gif 2 - Would replacing with the Facet solid state pump be any easier than going for the Weber pump option, and does the solid state pump not suffer from these unreliabilitiesquestion.gif 3 - Are these suitable if I increase the bhp in futurequestion.gif Jonathan, you've reminded me, from many years ago, of a carb specialist in Croydon, which I think may be Southern Carbs, too. I'll see what other options they come up with given their proximity. Cheers Adil Novice wannabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2D2 Posted October 26, 2001 Share Posted October 26, 2001 The solid state pumps are rectangular not cylindrical and I have never been very keen on them. They gained a bad reputation in rally cars a few years ago but that may be due to the bouncing around. The "gold" colour of your existing pump is the plating and passivating on the steel body. It may also have a round sticker on it which should be either red, blue or silver. The colour code tells you the flow rate. Red is greatest, silver is lowest. Apart from the current unreliability all of these pumps are "interrupter" types and can develop pressures in the order of 6.5psi. This pressure is generally too high for a Weber or DelOrto float valve which regulates the fuel level in the carburettor. The float height affects the operation of the jets in the carb and if it varies the engine will not run cleanly under all conditions. It is usually recommended that a pressure regulator set at 2.5-3 psi is used with a Facet pump (either Filter King or Purolator) to prevent this problem. The Weber-Alpha pump that has been recommended has a much smoother delivery than the interrupter range of Facets and a maximum pressure delivery of around 3 psi. It is therefore much kinder to the carbs and genrally causes less problems. My local Weber Alpha dealer (Aldon) assured me that the fuel delivery is sufficient for about 250BHP engines. The price is also quite reasonable and I have been quite happy with the results from the one I have fitted. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millsn Posted October 26, 2001 Share Posted October 26, 2001 Both myself and a friend run James W's Weber pump without incident and very quiet it is too. He has a VX and I've a 165 zetec. Nigel Mills - 2.0 Zetec carbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative z7 Posted October 27, 2001 Author Area Representative Share Posted October 27, 2001 Thanks guys. Looks like I'll go the Weber route from JW. Chris, thanks for the informative reply, too thumbsup.gif. It's quite educational as this is all new to me. My current pump doesn't have any stickers. So, I don't know what rating it is. Am I right in thinking that more bhp requires a higher flow rate? Is it that simple? Cheers Adil Novice wannabe Edited by - Adil on 27 Oct 2001 18:39:17 Edited by - Adil on 27 Oct 2001 18:44:45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevefoster Posted October 28, 2001 Share Posted October 28, 2001 Said friend is me! I had 3 Facet Silver tops go west on two different 7's. All had pre-pump filters. The little solid state one on the car when I got it still works but it's capacity may have been a bit low so I went Webcon. Cheap at ~£35 thus far reliable. JW is the place to get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative z7 Posted October 29, 2001 Author Area Representative Share Posted October 29, 2001 Thanks Steve. I've been in touch with JW and new pump is on its way. Adil Novice wannabe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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