susser Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 I am convinced that the only way to get the top of my head low enough to stop it catching the vortices off the top of the screen and also remove the screen top from my direct line of vision, is to fit one of them lowered floor jobbies; Been and seen one at Dartford today and it's raised a few Qs.1, How does the outside (sideskin) side attach. ie is it behind the skin like the normal floor ?. 2, The outside side is vertical, so are the rivets are fitted horizontally ?. 3 If I drill out all the rivets am I going to get rattles as all the mandrels and bits clatter about inside ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 1. Between the inside sideskin and the chassis rail. 2. Yup. 3. Squirt a whole aerosol tin of Dinitrol 3125 Cavity Wax in through the rivet holes. The 4mm rivets are steel and your ordinary pop rivet gun won't close the rivets - you'll need one that specifies the ability to close 4mm steel rivets - start your arm exercises now 😬 BRG Brooklands SV 😬 It seems that perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing more to take away. (Antoine de Saint-Exupery) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susser Posted March 31, 2005 Author Share Posted March 31, 2005 So I gotta drill out the sideskin rivets, pull the skin away and get the vertical bit up the side of the rail, then how do the rivets go in, from the outside and through the skin ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifty Posted March 31, 2005 Share Posted March 31, 2005 Graham Torbitt was showing me his last weekend. He will be there next Monday I'd have thought so have a good look at his. If I were to go down this route (which I don't need to at 5' 10") I'd do as Graham did and get Arch to do it. Keep off the straight and narrow 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susser Posted March 31, 2005 Author Share Posted March 31, 2005 Smashin' Nifty. I'll have a look on Mon. If you're 5'10" you are 1 1/2" shorter than me, so you must get the same view as I would with a lowered floor. I'll have a chat on Mon night about vortex shedding off the swede. That should be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 The lower inside sideskin rivets must be removed - as you say, plus the same rivets at the rear. Slide-up the new floor between the inside sideskin and the chassis tubing, mark-out the rivet holes, remove the new floor, drill the rivet holes, re-insert the new floor between the inside sideskin and chassis tubing and put the rivets in horizontally. It will look exactly the same inside as your existing set-up. I had some light corrosion between the old floor and chassis tubing on the outside edge, plus some powder coat chipped off. It's a good idea to give the mating areas a good brushing with waxoyl before reassembly. To top-it-off, I dipped each steel rivet in waxoyl before inserting and closing. Steel chassis, aluminium alloy skin and steel rivets do not a good combination make - the slightest moisture will corrode the assembly like a bandit To mark-out the other rivet holes it's a good idea to use the old floor as a template, but first the outside and rear edge needs about an inch cutting off so it will line-up with the new floor. BRG Brooklands SV 😬 It seems that perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing more to take away. (Antoine de Saint-Exupery) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susser Posted April 1, 2005 Author Share Posted April 1, 2005 That's great Tony. I don't want the extra trouble and expense of an Arch Motors job but I don't want to devalue the car with a bodge. I'm pretty sure I can hack this. I need to be absolutely sure though, that this is the most appropriate solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harenm Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Here are some pictures of a lowered floorplan. http://www.7cars.de/serv01.htm#finalversion 1982, 1600 kent, alu body Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted April 1, 2005 Share Posted April 1, 2005 Nice looking car harenm. susser, I too was unsure whether the lowered floor would make a noticeable difference - it does for me. Even about 2" lower is significant. I'm 6' 2" and have Brooklands - the lowered floor makes me feel I'm more "in" the car. There is much less head buffeting and the view is better. Fitting the new floor is no big deal if you take your time, measure twice and "cut" once - go for it 😬 BRG Brooklands SV 😬 It seems that perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing more to take away. (Antoine de Saint-Exupery) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susser Posted April 2, 2005 Author Share Posted April 2, 2005 That's some great feedback. Those pictures certainly answer a number of questions that I had. There are a number of other areas to explore; Went for a blat yesterday with the hoodbag in it's "rightful" position, ie strapped to the roll bar. It seemed to reduce the amount of air hitting the back of my neck. The issue of airflow is clearly a complicated one. Soon, someones bound to suggest chucking the screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted April 2, 2005 Share Posted April 2, 2005 You've got a screen? BRG Brooklands SV 😬 It seems that perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing more to take away. (Antoine de Saint-Exupery) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susser Posted April 2, 2005 Author Share Posted April 2, 2005 "You've got a screen? ." I suppose I saw that one coming. I had a bit of a debate on the subject of my car's spec' prior to going shopping. I guess the car is just about right, but I've got upgradeitis already. I don't want to chase power/weight ratio 'cos I won't win. But, I could maybe go for a Tonneau, Momo QD wheel, CR500s, Wind deflector, Cycles, lowered floor, etc. I've only been a sevener in material terms for 6 months, so what am I going to be like in a year's time ??. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbutnotslow Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 Now Paul the suggestion of getting rid of the screen was mentioned over a beer a couple of weeks ago was it not??!! 😬 😬 Grant Black and stone chip and currently not going ☹️ Engine out and with Oily to be made better - 4 days to go here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susser Posted April 3, 2005 Author Share Posted April 3, 2005 Yes Grant. I suppose this is a kind of similar thing as "there are two kinds of people in this world my friend" (The Good The Bad and the Ugly), those with cycle wings and those who haven't changed their Clamshells yet, or, There are those with Aeroscreens/ Deflectors and those who haven't got round to dumping their screen yet, I'm sure there are many similar comparisons. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 How about changing your seat ? With a Tillet or MOG monted on the floor you'll gain a couple of inches. REAL POWER FROM HELLIER PERFORMANCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susser Posted April 3, 2005 Author Share Posted April 3, 2005 Paulo. That's a valid solution. But. One of the criteria I had for the original Wish List was leather seats, for comfort, thigh support, and the ability to jiffle (harness allowing) as I've got a narrow butt and need to keep the blood flowing around the old Gluteus Maximus. Might hafta have a sit in one to checkit out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo Posted April 3, 2005 Share Posted April 3, 2005 You'll be agreeably surprised. REAL POWER FROM HELLIER PERFORMANCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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