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Duratec - Which Oil/Coolant?


rgrigsby

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Reading up on Oilman's posts, it seems the 15/50 is most appropriate for our climate and mode of use. Makes perfect sense really.

 

Also, I've been reading up on PC's old posts regarding coolant. I ran out of the Rover 4 year stuff I bought when V7 was new and wanted something equivalent. Propylene Glycol (as opposed to Ethylene Glycol) is the good stuff, and preferably in the premixed form to eliminate mixing in crappy water from Severn Trent. Coldstream is the coolant of choice, not as widely available as it once was but I found some in a Wilkinson's hardware store (in 1 litre containers). I bought all of them in stock.

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Can't disagree with the oil 😬

Do find the Propylene Glycol as all the properties are far better from all the info I gathered and Peter C found. The problem is finding it *mad*. CC version is not PG any more and the Comma agents hardly ever have it. It is around just hard to find.

 

Richard in France

Flying fast in my very bright yellow 226bhp Duratec 7, with internal kevlar/carbon panels and pushrod suspension 😬 😬 😬.for pictures of 7 and carbon

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Well, I believe the answer is: it depends. How hard are you running the engine? What are the temperatures you will be operating in?

 

Here in California I have been advised the following:

* For normal street use a good quality 10-30 or 10-40 is ok.

* For track days get the best quality syntheic you can (redline or amsoil) in a 20-50. Change the oil when you get back from the trackday.

 

Under no circumstances should you use 5-20 (things _will_ break). ☹️

Mobile1 is fine for street use, but don't trust it on a track.

 

As far as coolant goes, I am using Dex-cool orange coolant. It uses OAT (organic acid technology) that is good for cooling systems

with aluminum components.

 

ELV15 - Tom in California -

200hp duratec powered 2003 Clubsport Build pics here: here

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HONDA brand Coolant has emerged as one of the Best currently available.. something about no silcates /deposits and water pump life.. lots research avialable if one has little else to do :-)..

Also carries some credibility, coming from the most prolific maker of alloy vehicle engines onna Planet... 3 million in '04 alone !

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these are factory filled in the US with a 5W-20 and a 5W-30 in Europe. Remember they are durability tested to extremes with these oils.

 

But I guess most duratecs in Caterhams are running higher than stock power. I'd run a duratec on a good quality semi-synthetic ACEA A3 5W-40 myself.

 

I think 50 grade oils are a bit too thick ( though probably would do no harm in a duratec) and they will lose you a bit of power.

 

The decision to use Mobil 1 or not is a bit like the decision between a Mondeo and a 3 series Bimmer. They both do the same job, but somehow one of them makes you feel chipper. In every day use though one could be regarded as over egging the pudding somewhat for the job you require of it. Oil is no different.

 

But if you must spend that bit extra to feel good about yourself, you wouldn't go wrong with any of the top tier brands.

 

 

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Halfords 4 year stuff is the same as Comma Cold Stream, made from the same 3m product "triguard".

 

I looked at the Halfrauds stuff this week - due to concerns about coolant in my oil (imagined or not) - their current stuff is EG based and is therefore nasty.

 

On a different note, someone (Simon Reader) pointed me at some 10W50 'fully synth' (yeah, ok... *wink*) oil branded 'Morris' - the Readers use it in their race 7s. Might give that a go when PSC switches from running-in mineral-oil to synth.

 

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7sRWild, I have not broken mine...yet 😬.

 

I have heard of other folks having failures, but all of my information comes second hand. The person I spoke to about oil weights/brands is a Duratec builder in the US. I suspect the failures are from 2.3L rod bearings, which are a weak point. I have a 2.0L and was told that the 2.0L bearings are fine...this bloke said they are fine to 8k! *eek*

 

He also mentioned that the Duratec has one of the best oiling systems of _any_ engine and that a dry sump is not necessary...

 

However, keep an eye on the oil pressure. While running track days, he has seen oil pressure degrade as the oil breaks down and this is how he came to his conclusions about the various viscosities and brands of oil. Look for about 90psi at 8000 rpms. Anything over 30psi is ok for idle.

 

 

 

ELV15 - Tom in California -

200hp duratec powered 2003 Clubsport Build pics here: here

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