Pierre Gillet Posted September 23, 2001 Share Posted September 23, 2001 Thanks to the kindness of Oily Hands, I am ready to replace the cam belt of my 1.6 K engine by a reinforced competition one made by PIPER (a competition flavor in my stock engine...). However , my instruction book says that I need to immobilize the crank shaft with special ROVER tool referenced: 18G 1571. Question: is it necessary to do so, or is there any other tool or method that can avoid buying this (expensive?)tool? Cheers, Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilyhands Posted September 23, 2001 Share Posted September 23, 2001 There are several ways to immobilise the crank, you could use a chain wrench on the bottom pulley while undoing the pulley bolt, or you can use a bar of material in through one of the flywheel teeth and allow this to wedge up against the bellhousing to stop the flywheel turning, I think there are a few places round the bellhousing where you can access the ring gear. Putting the car in 4th gear will help a little. Oily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Gillet Posted September 24, 2001 Author Share Posted September 24, 2001 Thanks Oily again.I understand now that blocking the engine in fact is necessary to undo the bolt of the pulley. It makes sense and I think I should manage doing so as you advise. Oily, you have an E-mail. Cheers, Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjwb Posted September 24, 2001 Share Posted September 24, 2001 Pierre, If you supply a fax number I will transmit the relevant pages from the GENUWHINE Rover manual. Steve B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Payne Posted September 25, 2001 Share Posted September 25, 2001 So what are the options after you've hung on the end of a very long extension bar but the crankshaft pulley bolt refuses to move? Does the pulley have to come off to change the belt? Thanks Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilyhands Posted September 25, 2001 Share Posted September 25, 2001 The pulley has to come off unless you are prepared to break away the lower belt cover and the protective flange on the oil pump.. If you lean on the bar hard enough the bolt *will* come undone, ISTR it took about 300ft/lb to undo a fairly recent one. You could use a piece of scaffold pole... Oily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Gillet Posted September 25, 2001 Author Share Posted September 25, 2001 Steve, I would certainly appreciate very much . My fax number is: 33( for France) 1 39 26 27 42. The torque that might have to be applied could be very high as Oily reports, so I may need to make a kind of tool alike the Rover one to block the crank safely. Cheers, Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjwb Posted September 25, 2001 Share Posted September 25, 2001 P Done it! S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Carmichael Posted September 25, 2001 Share Posted September 25, 2001 Attempt to immobilise the crank, stick it in top gear and get someone to stand on the brakes *really hard*. Use your FIA bar petty strut as a lever on a big ring spanner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny. Posted September 25, 2001 Share Posted September 25, 2001 OK....call me a Philistine, but I whipped sump of my VX and wedged crank itself with lump of hardwood.........after trying to loosen bolt with 120 foot pipe and 10 mates swinging from it. Kenny HPC Was I sorry I bought that steel oil pump gear!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilyhands Posted September 25, 2001 Share Posted September 25, 2001 It's not so easy on the K, the engine bottom plate stops you doing this and it's held on by the thru bolts which also hold the head on... Oily Edited by - oilyhands on 25 Sep 2001 17:33:13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny. Posted September 25, 2001 Share Posted September 25, 2001 That explains it Oily........and thanks for not calling me a Philistine. Kenny HPC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Gillet Posted September 25, 2001 Author Share Posted September 25, 2001 Thanks very much Steve! I will get the materials tomorrow at the office. Cheres, Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Gillet Posted September 27, 2001 Author Share Posted September 27, 2001 Has anyone the dimensions of the special ROVER tool referenced: 18G 157? I would like to try to make it I have a sketch as shown on the Rover maintenance book, but there are no dimensions on it. Cheers, Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Gillet Posted September 27, 2001 Author Share Posted September 27, 2001 I should have looked at the Rover engine as installed in the Seven before envisaging to make thsi tool and asking this question. In fact this tool is meant for the tintop and would be impossible to use on a Seven. I will use Oily Hands' or Peter C's method. Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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