owlscastle Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Possible numpty question. Is there a simple way of removing the dash in order to upgrade to a stack dash. It is riveted into the chassis with most of the rivets tucked under the edge of the scuttle. A bit difficult to access with a drill. Once its out, do you rivet the new one in or do people stick it or screw it ? Thanks Ritchie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normans_Ghost Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 The easy way it remove all wiring and remove scuttle. The remove dash and fit new refit scuttle and refit wires. I refitted my cf dash with velcro so it just pulls forward to get at wiring. Norman Verona, 1989 BDR 220bhp, Mem No 2166, the full story here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 I believe that the rolled edge that goes under the lower edge of the dash is riveted - but the upper-edge is bonded (silicone?). CC will sell you a dash (cf or ali) with the Stack cut out for you. Personally, I want an ali dash blank so that I can place switches and instruments where I want. Project Scope-Creep is underway... Alcester Racing 7's Equipe - 🙆🏻™ Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shn7 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Ritchie, You need to remove the scuttle to get to the dash fittings. The amount of time this takes will be more than saved in that it provides easy access to the instrument wiring. Mine was riveted top and bottom. The new carbon one I fitted with small self tappers that are all but invisible once the scuttle is back in place. CC sell either blanks or pre-cut. There are other suppliers though such as RiF and MOG. Cutting your own holes is easy with some drills and a Dremel. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrino Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 My old ali one was rivetted top & bottom, but I think I'll just bond the new MOG CF one, as many others have done. Lobbying Caterham for a new badge.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlscastle Posted February 1, 2005 Author Share Posted February 1, 2005 When you say remove the scuttle, that looks like it involves removing all the 30 or so rivets in the engine bay side plus other fixings inside. Is that right, looks a lot of work to me? Ritchie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted February 1, 2005 Support Team Share Posted February 1, 2005 Removing those rivets makes the job much easier but is a pain and then you need to decide whether to just rivet it back or use rivnuts. The scuttle is actually a one piece design consisting of the top bit that your windscreen rests on and the vertical plate the top is rivetted too. To remove it in one go (assume windscreen removed) you need to undo two nuts on the inside of the curved top piece. These nuts are screwed onto captive bolts just about where your knees are - if you have the little trim panels there you 'll need to remove them first. You then need to detach the fuse box and anything else from that vertical panel, and then the whole scuttle assembly lifts out. Hope that makes sense. Yellow SL #32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shn7 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 And it can be done with the screen in place. Just remove everything that is connected to or through it and undo the four bolts and lidt the whole lot off. It really is easier than it first seems. Unlike many jobs. Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlscastle Posted February 1, 2005 Author Share Posted February 1, 2005 You were right, scuttle off, old dash removed. Any one got a close up photo of the stack dash showing which switch goes where, wipers etc. Not that it matters, but I might as well follow the convention. Thanks Ritchie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k.russell Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 just done this, as the guys say two bolts under the dash each side, and mine was siliconed in place across the front where the vertical part meets the horizontal panel where the heater sometimes sits,I cut this with a long bladed stnley knife, and I also had two large rivets at the side of the scuttle where it meets the side skin, near the door opening, plan to replace these with a rivnut and fit a small csk bolt, think there was also some bolts where the steering comes through, It took me about 45mins to remove including taking off the wind screen, wich i neednt have done. kevin R J457 DNU black-ali HPC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Simon Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Thread hijack... How do you deal with the wiper mechanism when removing the scuttle? -Bob 95 HPC VX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k.russell Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Bob, after removing trhe arms the covers just pull off and when you remove the scuttle it just lies across the trunk of the wiring loom(the controll arm), mine was actually cable tied to the loom, no problem. kevin R J457 DNU black-ali HPC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Simon Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Thanks Kevin. Sounds easy enough. I had an unsuccessful neck surgery for a broken odontoid process I aquired while performing low level aerobatics in a Chevrolet SUV. ☹️ Consequently, I had to have my upper cervical vertebrae fused together. I have no way of working comfortably under the scuttle of my car. I can't wait to pull the scuttle and put some order to my under dash wiring projects. -Bob 95 HPC VX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k.russell Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 By far the hardest part of the whole operation was to break the bond of the silicon at the front vertical joint, but like i said get a thin long blade and it does the job, best if there are two to lift the scuttle from both sides evenly, good luck. kevin R J457 DNU black-ali HPC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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