Jason Plato Posted January 17, 2005 Share Posted January 17, 2005 All new parts on Plenhum chamber, class leading power . Built following Junior WRC Super 1600 Rally specs by professional engine builder , fully optimised to conform with regulations. A discounted deal will be offered to a competitive driver . Engine is fully built and ready to fit with 0 miles If you are seriously intertested please contact me ASAP Ta Dave Ps - this is not a wind up following on from other threads . Edited by - Dave Jackson on 17 Jan 2005 21:58:16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Locust Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 ....and the professionally built dyno figure drops in at what exactly 😬 Ian Green and Silver Roadsport 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted January 18, 2005 Author Share Posted January 18, 2005 Hasnt been on the dyno yet . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Dave - any ideas on specs, and what comes with it ancillaries wise and or price guide this will decide how seriously I might be interested rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 how do YOU determine who is competetive and who is not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 look at the results from the last 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 That is just who is fastest though Rob, not who is most competetive... I am I feel one of the most ocmpetetive, but with the lack of funds to add upgrades to 13" wheels and top spec tyres etc, I think I was hampered in what could be achived... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted January 18, 2005 Author Share Posted January 18, 2005 So if you cant afford some decent tyres Mav , I assume you dont want the engine Besides you dont need decent tyres , just enter in class 2 . I havent seen you sprinting before Mav ? - you coming out to play this year ? Edited by - Dave Jackson on 18 Jan 2005 11:21:54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Dave, I sprinted 2002 and 2003 - 2004 work got in the way, and this year all of my funds are going into the USA tour in September / October... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david nelson Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Dave Is it difficult to swop engines in a 7 🤔 David 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver 21 Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 Dave You say fully rebuilt so presumably not as supplied originally, therefore a Class 4 or 5 engine 🤔 🤔 🤔 Graham Competition Secretary 2005 Speed Championship - 13 Rounds with 7 counting towards the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted January 19, 2005 Author Share Posted January 19, 2005 @BB The engine is a class 2/3 engine on plenhum and 52mm single TB , big valve K16 head , 1600cc , forged pistons, solid followers, uprated springs , super 1600 cams , verniers ,new oil and water pumps , new injectors, ballanced bottom end . All new seals , bearings etc . Dave N Swop engines in about 6 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Locust Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 About 170hp then 🤔 😬 Ian Green and Silver Roadsport 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted January 19, 2005 Author Share Posted January 19, 2005 Yeah probably 'ish with nice torque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Locust Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 Dave, with regard to the 'other' thread running at the moment, does your engine man have any empirical data to quantify exactly what the benefits of various 'standard' parts are? Ian Green and Silver Roadsport 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted January 19, 2005 Author Share Posted January 19, 2005 The benifits from tweeking any individual part is less than the sum effect of all the parts on a "std" 1800K If you went 4-2-1 proper tuned length exhaust and mated to the head , ground the keyway in the std vernier and optimised the timing, took the std plenum apart and cleaned it all up, mated the plenhum to the std head, then fitted a "cleaned up" std 52 mm throttle body with a cold air feed,and got your mems remapped on the blackmarket in the Midlands, then you could get quite a bit more oomph without making it non standard. But no where near the power of a fully modified 1600K . C7 TOP Powered by Hellier Performance 😬 Now updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 My car is going to be mapped at emerald soon hopefully and when done I will publish the figures in competitors corner for all to see My car is very much standard with bolts ons and it will be interestingto see what it makes spec is 1600 K SS (EU3) 52mm Tb cleaned up plenum Emerald ECU verniers powerspeed 4-1 exhaust (no cat) Dave - what do you mean by a cold air feed 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberts Wallet Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 Rob as a bench mark my 1600 made 140 at Dave the other month. The spec is similar to yours; 1600 SS EU2 MEMS Caterham 4-2-1 no Cat Standard pulleys Cleaned up plenum the graph is here Gareth Blue and Carbon 6 Speed Supersport lots of Caterham piccies here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 so with the added ecu it will be interesting to see the difference not an entirely empirical comparisons but good enough rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted January 19, 2005 Author Share Posted January 19, 2005 Rob , A trick employed and then banned in the roadsports was to make a box around the air filter near the scuttle and seal the top of the box against the bonnet , drawing air in through the bonnet vents . Cold air = more oxygen = more bang = more silver plates 😬( Ps- BB can we have something else this year ?) A 10C reduction in inlet temperature = +3% power 3% of 140 = 4.2bhp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted January 19, 2005 Share Posted January 19, 2005 sneaky 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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