neil.cavanagh Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 one of my rear brake pads has worn all the way through and has damaged the disc. Does anyone have a numpties guide to how to replace a rear disc ('03 SV de-dion roadsport)?? Or failing that, know of any good garages close to Camberley, Surrey who could be trusted with the work. thanks, Neil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Day Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Try James Whiting in Ashford Middlesex: 01784-241466 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Simple matey. (1). pull the handbrake on full. (2). using a 45mm socket and a long extension bar (release the hub nut: 270NM). WATCH... THE NUTS ARE DIFERENT THREADS). Essentially for the d/h/rr wheel loosen anticlockwise. For the p/s/rr loosen clockwise. Once done, release handbrake. (3). you'll have to undo the nipple on the copper brake line into the caliper body (will entail bleeding brakes again at finish) WATCH... cover the nipple end of the brake line with a piece of hose sealed at one end to stop excessive fluid loss. (4). take a 17mm socket and undo the 2 bolts at the back of the caliper that mount the caliper to the dedion ears. (40NM). (5). pull the caliper assembly off the disc. (6). gentle tease the disc off the end of the driveshaft (use a rubber mallet if necessary). REVERSE ORDER TO REFIT. Make sure you bleed the brakes again before tightening the hub nuts to 270nm. Neill. You'll need to check the caliper in which the pad is excessively worn....you may have a problem. Is the other pad the same?. If not something is sticking to cause excessive wear on one particular pad. I suggest you dismantle the caliper slides, clean and regrease. Check the piston seal is not split. Fit the new pads with copiuos amounts of copper slip to aid movement. Apply copper slip to the back of the pads and the contact points where the pad sides touch the caliper body. Emerald Isle's 1st SV 148lbft @ 6091rpm and 182bhp @ 6690rpm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonbell Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Timbo should know....he did it last night Simon Bell - Caterham 7 Duratec R I`ve seen the future.....and it`s powered by duratec Check out the website here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Well to be precise, one complete back end, dedion tube and diff came out. (not my car but our AO's). Emerald Isle's 1st SV 148lbft @ 6091rpm and 182bhp @ 6690rpm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil.cavanagh Posted November 22, 2004 Author Share Posted November 22, 2004 thanks Guys! I'm pretty close to James Whiting, so might see if he/they could fit me in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Faulds Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Wow - that's an impressive handbrake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F355GTS Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Timbo 41mm socket isn't it in item 2? Neil Happy to help if you want to bring it here Edited by - F355GTS on 22 Nov 2004 16:00:28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonbell Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Yep...41mm and handbrake not likely to be enough pressure.......get a bod to put his foot on the brake Simon Bell - Caterham 7 Duratec R I`ve seen the future.....and it`s powered by duratec Check out the website here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil.cavanagh Posted November 22, 2004 Author Share Posted November 22, 2004 booked in at James Whitings in the morning... hopefully he will let me watch/help so I can do it myself next time around!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinfourth Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Boing now i have exactly the same problem presenting itself to me. Now when i pull out the hub etc does this leave the bearings easy to change at the same time. If so what are they bearings from and are the disc same as front discs with standard brakes Sod the heater wheres my shades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Beaumont Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Yes, with the hub centre removed you just have to remove the hub to get at the bearings. That part of the car is standard Ford Sierra, and you'll probably trash the shaft seals getting them out to gain access to the bearings. The discs are the same as std. fronts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe 90 Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Why are my disks held on with bolts with really shallow heads, which let the socket slip off really easily, 6uggering the heads *mad* *mad* Are they all like that? SEP field working, not spotted in 103,300 miles. Some photos on webshots, updated 25 Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevefoster Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I missed the split of disc and hubs with the 4 bolts Oliver mentions. Grind a socket down so that there is no lip as is standard on them. If you have a mare of getting them off with any damage then replace them so that next time they are new + put copparslip on them to present corrosion. My handbrake will manage the undo and do up if I adjust it up a bit. You can also chock the wheels as well to assist. Neil, You are close to me if you want a hand some time... I have big socket and torque wrench, socket etc... No need to split the calliper unless its damaged. Normally the steel pad backing damages the disk. Hants (North) and Berkshire Area club site here My racing info site here Edited by - stevefoster on 19 Apr 2005 15:55:42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Beaumont Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Snap On sockets fit the reduced head without any drama at all, if you know anyone who'll lend you one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinfourth Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I've got a cheap socket set, i've got an angle grinder and I'm marine engineer. I don't forsee a problem removing the bolts 😬 😬 😬 😬 *eek* *eek* Sod the heater wheres my shades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul McKenzie Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 1. select correct socket 2. put it on SQUARE 3. use a breaker bar and hold it square when applying load That way you'll never round the head of the bolt ...you might snap the head off though if it's seized Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie adams Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 i will probably be shot down in flames for saying this but dont let coppaslip touch the rubber seals, use caliper grease instead it aparantly stops the seals from degrading. i have always used this and raced bikes for years with no problems ......a dont think car brakes are that much different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinfourth Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 what is caliper grease? I have always used shed loads of copper slip but i didn't know it degraded rubber. you learn every day Sod the heater wheres my shades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie adams Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 the stuff i use is GP products super caliper grease on 01543 878238 its a non melting water resistant grease that smells just like sudocream (if you have kids you will know ). i hope it wasnt just a marketing ploy its bloody expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinfourth Posted April 23, 2005 Share Posted April 23, 2005 well job done it was a piece of piss just one reluctant bolt. And next time i'm buying the proper windback tool. Sod the heater wheres my shades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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