Mark Durrant Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 I am considering my options for 2005 and was wondering what is the best List 1b tyre. Looking at this years championship people seem to use either 24 compound ACB10's of supersoft Yoko 32R's. Has anyone tried both and what do you recommend. See you at Brands Mark D Su77on Se7ens Edited by - Mark Durrant on 29 Sep 2004 18:50:21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Payne Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Michelin Pilots! Stay in your own class, your too fast for ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Perry Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 😬 😬 *thumbup* We'll have a whip round in class 2 to see if we can buy you a set Mark ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 you don't want to waste you rmoney on list 1b tyres especially those nasty compound 24 acb's, you will be lucky to see 100 miles and they will cost over a 100 quid a corner ☹️ where is the sense in that[:] beter to spend your money on something else imo 😬 better to stay with list 1a I reckon I ams ure us class 3 boys can have a whip around and buy you some pilups as Allen says rob PS yes the top 4 runners in class3 all ran compound 24's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david nelson Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Mark 32SS are no good at all could only come 5th in class3 with them. have you thought about 32 S, will give you the sort of times that class 3 will be happy for you to get. Next year you could prove that 32 s is the tyre to be on, give it a go and will see how you get on 😬 now where is the Avon web site 😬 David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Perry Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Hang on a minute, hes now got both classes paying him to go elsewhere, he can't lose 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 isn't it nice to be popular 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Durrant Posted September 30, 2004 Author Share Posted September 30, 2004 Well thanks for the offer of paying for the tyres but that would mean one class would miss out of the feel good factor, so I was thinking that classes 2 &3 could club together in order that I could trade in the current car for an R500 and enter in classes 4 or 5 😬 Mark D Su77on Se7ens Considering my options for 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Maarrkkkk.......wanna sell yer list 1a tyres *eek* *eek* 🤔 🤔 I 😬might 😬 just know a man who could be sprinting with you next year ❗ Dannyboy - 95,000 miles and rising Edited by - Dannyboy on 30 Sep 2004 10:14:55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pb Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Reading the regs classes 1 to 5 are for road going spec cars. But to use ACB10 24's surely you would not be able to drive to an event. So to be competive you need tyres that last 200 miles, a trailer and towcar PB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 pb - there have been people who have done well in the sprints in class 3 on non acb 24's I think most of the front runners for ALL classes trailer to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Durrant Posted September 30, 2004 Author Share Posted September 30, 2004 Danny You can have first refusal on the tyres which are 185/60 x 13 Bridgestone RE720's that have been buffed down to 4mm. Will you be at the Festival if so we can discuss then. Mark D Su77on Se7ens Considering my options for 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Mark.. Yip!! will be at the festival!! Wouldn't mind having a chat about this sprinting lark anyhow 😬 😬 Would like to find out what I'm letting myself in for 😬 😬 😬 😬 😬 Dannyboy - 95,000 miles and rising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Durrant Posted September 30, 2004 Author Share Posted September 30, 2004 Danny I will definitely be there on Saturday so we can meet up and discuss then. I'll have my mobile with me so give me a call on 07834-801566. Mark D Su77on Se7ens Considering my options for 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Excellent.... Dannyboy - 95,000 miles and rising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver 21 Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Mark You acuse me of being devious yet here you are playing Class 2 off against Class 3, you obviously fancy your chances after this year, or have you heard about the new rule changes 🤔 🤔 🤔 I was going to leave this till the awards do but we are imposing a new ruling that the winner of each Class must move up a class in the following year so they all eventually end up in Class 6 😬 😬 😬 😬 😬 😬 😬 Graham Competition Secretary 2004 Speed Championship - 9 events, 2005 Speed Championship - Watch this space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pb Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 Rob, I can understand the benefits of using a trailer, however using acb10 24's @ £100 a corner and around 200miles life in road going class seem a little OTT and you have little choice than trailer to events, unless someone takes a set of wheels to the venue in their tin top. Rather than the regs state List 1B surely it would be better to have a list for the classes 3 and 5 e.g. A048R, CR500, 32R. ACB10 33's etc. PaulB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Durrant Posted September 30, 2004 Author Share Posted September 30, 2004 Me devious....never 😬 I'm not so sure that I fancy my chances in Class 3 but it is under consideration As for the rule changes that seems very sensible as Dave McFarlane will therefore be in Class 4 😬 Mark D Su77on Se7ens Considering my options for 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry.h Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 In the long run then everyone ends up in class 6 *eek* Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 what happens to the class 6 champion are they forced to get an acadmey car and start again in class1 rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david nelson Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 pb I drove to the 1st two events. I saw 2 cars have incidents on one day that would not have been able to drive home(both had trailer. I used CR500 on the 1st event and as I felt they were not compedative I got some 32R SS. Rob lent me his tyre rack. It would have been silly to use the 32 SS on the road as they would not last that long. I bought a trailer as I was unable/unwilling to give it 10/10 at the event becouse I needed to get home . I also would have put on lots of motorway miles on the 7 and have to increase my limited milage insurance. Motorway miles in the rain with an aero screen or siting in a tow car no contest. If you think I soft, so be it, but my 1st 7 did 42k miles in just 2 1/2 years as it was my only car so have the tee-shirt. I will have acb 10 A24 next year as long a I have the money, If people wish to keep the cost of their motorsport down then class2 and 4 give them this opertunity. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Carmichael Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 A24 ACB10s last a lot longer than people think and aren't as soft as people think. I did the 2002 and 2003 seasons on one set. I did 2004 on a new set (wow, three events!), but I also did all my road mileage this year (which did measure in *hundreds* of miles, if not thousands) on the same tyres and I just did the club Brands Hatch trackday on them also. They are still legal. It is a pain to keep swapping wheels, so I prefer my one solution for all conditions - wet or dry I have used big fat ACB10s. But yes, I do trailer to events - mostly because of my habit of picking up speeding tickets when driving a dayglo orange Seven on the road to events. In outright sprinting terms, I am not yet convinced that ACB10s are significantly quicker than 32SS. Dave J has proved how fast A032Rs can go. This year however it has been clear that I have had more cornering performance than Dave, who was stuggling to make his A048s work properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 I have held off from changing to ACB A24's for several years , prefering to stick with 32R's on soft and super soft compound in order to keep costs down . I firmly believe that it doesnt result in any greater competition ,it simply adds $500 costs to everyones budget and you all go out and have the same time difference as last year ........... The general opinion appears to be that ACB's would give me an extra 1.5 > 2 seconds at Curborough .making 55 > 56 second times . Next year if Peter comes back with his 235 bhp engine on A24's , then I cant afford to give that tyre time advantage away any longer so I will have to relunctantly change to A24's ☹️ and another set of tyres and wheels for my 5000 road miles ☹️ 🙆🏻 What ever you do don believe the bumph and buy 48's , they take too long to heat up on the fronts ..... See you all sunday Edited by - Dave J on 30 Sep 2004 17:20:38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted September 30, 2004 Share Posted September 30, 2004 I must have done somethign wrong with my acb 24's with my little old 135 bhp supersport they have lasted 10 sprints/hillclimbs with possibly 100 road miles max and the rears are past the wear markers and the scrut at wiscombe commented on them as being borderline ☹️ admittedly I did lend the car to rob grigsby who did 6 runs at llandow maybe that is why they are worn out rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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