Ferrino Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Does anyone know what torque an Ital axle hub nut is done up to and if there different handed threads on each side? I guess the answer will determine if I can get it off with my 'big' torque wrench, or if I need to get a 'heavy duty breaker bar'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Faulds Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Can't remember exactly, but it's similar to the Dedion nuts, so 200lb/ft +. No they're not handed, and it's bad practice to use a torque wrench as a breaker bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 I'm fairly sure when I did mine up I found a note in one of my books that said only do up to something like 95lb /ft on a live axle i.e. much less than a DD. Don't take this as gospel but I'll have a look through the books again D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Found it in my Tony Weale Lotus 7 maintenance manual on page 200 which talks about Leyland Ital rear axles. It says "Hub securing nut torques are 85 ft.Ib for Leyland (from 1981), and 110 ft.Ib for Standard axles (1960 to 1868)" Later on he confirms that the torque for a DD is 200 ft.Ibs. Quite a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xflow7 Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Errm... How does one tell which axle one has(i.e. Leyland or Standard)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Sailor Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 I took a look at Weale's book also. The two axles look similar with some differences between the diff. casings that are hard to discribe. However, the diagrams in the book show a square plate at the outer ends of the axle for the Ford type. This is the plate that the brake assembly is attached to. The diagram for the Ital axle shows round plate at the axle ends. Ken Sailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xflow7 Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Thanks, Ken. I was inferring that 'Standard' referred to some other Ital axle varient, but I gather not. Think it's clear now. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DW Posted September 22, 2004 Share Posted September 22, 2004 Confused now Ken . Who mentioned Ford? The Standard I referred to was the Standard-Triumph fitted to all series 2 Sevens. The Ford was fitted to all series 3 and 4 and by Caterham until 1981. It's replacement was the axle from the Ital which is related to the original Standard-Triumph but is both stronger and has a wider track measurement (but looks the similar)! So if you've got a Caterham and it is an Ital, then it is 85 Ib.ft. Doesn't sound very tight does it I keep expecting mine to fall off having put them on myself..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrino Posted September 22, 2004 Author Share Posted September 22, 2004 So we're going with 85 ft.Ib. How about the threads - are they both right-handed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Faulds Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 😳 My bad - checked and we used to run them at 120 on Grad cars. The shafts are both the same and right-handed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrino Posted September 23, 2004 Author Share Posted September 23, 2004 Thanks. Found the scanned Haynes Ital pages on the axle and yes indeed it says 85 ft. lb. However, the ease at which they came off suggests they were a little on the loose side..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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