NickW Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 Hello, Just been out on the first test drive with the MegaJolt installed. Everything works OK, feedback from the Runtime display in the software is good. The car seems a little easier to start, no bad thing with a XFlow!!. The map I'm using is basically a copy of what my dizzy would have been giving, so is very safe. I've got another map from a Xflow, so will try that out and see if there is what the differences are. There are some pictures here of the installation. Please excuse the crap website. I'll try and update a bit later with info on the other map. Regards, Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickW Posted August 2, 2004 Author Share Posted August 2, 2004 OK, Didn't get to do much of a blat yesterday, but the second map has made a difference, car definatly starts better and seams to pull better from 2nd. I also seam to have alot more 'pops' on overrun 🤔 😬 I think the next step is a rolling road session as I don't have the expertese to know what to change in the map, I think the cam in the car that the map came from came in at a higher rpm than mine does, so maybe need to drop the advance figures down the rpm range a little?? But, the system works. It's relativly easy to instal. It's very cheap and even with a basic map it's better than a dizzy. 😬 Thanks to Bill and Guy for getting this off the ground. 1st happy customer, Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrino Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Nice work! Have you got any shots of the 36-1 pulley and sensor? Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Perry Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Nick YHM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickW Posted August 2, 2004 Author Share Posted August 2, 2004 Ferrino, Take a look here towards the bottom of the page, just added a couple of photos. Regards, Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowly Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 Nick, well done on your install. One thing concerns me, having seen your pictures and that's the mounting of the VR sensor. It seems to be mounted by one bolt and one screw? There must be a lot of vibration involved here. What is stopping movement should a fixing loosen as I guess failure here would be fairly serious? Cheers Rowly Owner of *thumbup*The Wombat L7OC member 27,000 so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Sewell Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 FYI the Weber alpha arrangement is no more secure - Webcon component catalogue see page 71. However, it is located on the opposite side under the alternator and secured to the timing marker. Low tech luddite - xflow and proud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickW Posted August 4, 2004 Author Share Posted August 4, 2004 Rowly, Yes, your right, it is a little exposed!! I did this part in a bit of a hurry. I did use a nyloc tho'!! I do have plans to make a better bracket that the sensor will locate into rather than sit ontop of, this should stop any possible rotation of the sensor around the bolt. It's also a little closer to the fan belt than I'd like, I might reposition it aswell, but that means rotating the trigger disc a little. Regards, Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowly Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 Graham, thanks for the link to the Webcon catalogue The Webcon mounting is indeed braced above the timing marks. This would mean that the whole shebang cannot drop away from the wheel. I am poor at this kind of thing, but will be doing it myself soon (with the help of Bill). I did notice that there are two bolts to the left of the pulley (looking from the rad.) that seem to be removeable/replaceable. The only concern is that they appear to be oil tight and so messing about with them could cause problems. (From memory they join the waterway? to the engine block) Keep us posted Nick And, any news Bill Shurvinton? Owner of *thumbup*The Wombat L7OC member 27,000 so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Shurvinton Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 Torturing my metal monkey to deliver trigger wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Brother Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 Hi Bill, Any news from the metal monkey? Steve Se7en-Up! It'S NOT Green! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Shurvinton Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 Yup, They are in the post. Will post some pictures up on a forum somewhere so you can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Brother Posted August 13, 2004 Share Posted August 13, 2004 Brilliant! Hope to speak to you soon. Steve Se7en-Up! It'S NOT Green! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Shurvinton Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 I have trigger wheels :-) Just need to get a Xflow over for measuring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Brother Posted August 14, 2004 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Bill, YHM Steve Se7en-Up! It'S NOT Green! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickW Posted August 20, 2004 Author Share Posted August 20, 2004 Rowly, I've made a new VR Sensor bracket which should be more sturdy, whadya think? MegaJolt Piccies Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Sewell Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 Now that looks over engineered. The mass of it alone will cost you between 3 and 5 nanoseconds in a 0 to 60 sprint 😬 Low tech luddite - xflow and proud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowly Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 Nick, top effort . The whole shebang looks well fitted. The VR sensor mounting is now braced by engine casing which means it can't fall down, or to the side. You must be much happier. I thought about this some more in the mean time....am I right in thinking that if the sensor failed the EDIS would revert to a 10deg advance to limp home? Where is the sensor from Nick? The one I saw at a scrappy was on a sierra and didn't have the square section at the back but just seemed cylindrical from what I remember. Well done More importantly how is it going. I'm hoping low down speeds will be smoother (I don't have to use 3rd at 30mph at times), fuel economy will be improved and top speed will increase due to my current lack of advance. Owner of *thumbup*The Wombat L7OC member 28,500 so far Edited by - Rowly on 20 Aug 2004 19:48:40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Shurvinton Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 If the sensor fails you are boogered. However VR sensors have a good reliability record in general. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrino Posted August 20, 2004 Share Posted August 20, 2004 am I right in thinking that if the sensor failed the EDIS would revert to a 10deg advance to limp home? Limp home mode must rely on the sensor though, so you'd be shafted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowly Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 With sensor failure I was thinking catastrophe and engine damage for some reason. I imagine without a reading (as long as the sensor is not reading from a different position) there just won't be a spark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickW Posted August 21, 2004 Author Share Posted August 21, 2004 Thanks Rowly. Yup, no sensor = no spark = AA Truck. But as Bill says there ain't a lot to wrong so should be very reliable. The sensor is the current version from Ford for an Escort. P/N: F7009578. £21.58 +VAT. As for 'hows it going' then I have only had chance to get out in the car once since I got the ECU going with a map donated by Bill. However, the car starts easier and does seem to pull better in 2nd and 3rd. You can see the map I'm using here Thanks, Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe 90 Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 The limp mode, where it reverts to a fixed 10 deg BTDC, is a fall back when there is a loss of ECU control signal. Without a crank signal, it wont go. SEP field working, not spotted in 102,200 miles. Some photos on webshots, updated 10 June Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Perry Posted August 21, 2004 Share Posted August 21, 2004 Nick, if you get a chance to adjust the map I sent, for your TPS settings and give it a try, I would be interested to hear what you think of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe 90 Posted September 11, 2004 Share Posted September 11, 2004 Does anyone have any maps for XFlows? I think I'll start a new thread regarding maps. SEP field working, not spotted in 102,400 miles. Some photos on webshots, updated 10 June Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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