manwiths4 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 My sources tell me i can't get hold of a clutch slave cylinder for the 1972 series 4 seven i am rebuilding (crossflow) - ☹️ Does anyone in blat world have one kicking around at the back of their garage, or can anyone suggest the best course of action? Can i get some sort of reconditioning kit for it !!! ??? If so where? If not, please tell me its not a new clutch housing as if the slave is so elusive i feel the bell will be worse.... and i will still have no slave...! HELP. Edited by - manwithseven on 30 Jun 2004 14:51:24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Have you tried Redline Components - they have the Exclusive Lotus Seven spares distribution agreement from Lotus and Caterham. 01883 346515 ask for Mick. Ex Fat Arnie Hauling Less Lard.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Sailor Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 I have a 1979 Crossflow and as far as I can tell your gearbox, bellhousing and clutch slave cylinder should be the same as mine. One of the books I have says that box was used up to 1981 when a Ford Escort Sport box was used. I asked the question a while back as to what cars the gearbox came out of and recieved the following info from nigelriches/Windbag "OK, so here's something from a copy of CCC from way back, Corsair gearbox for the 1500, and 1500GT, was also used on the Anglia Super 1200, Cortina Mk1, Classic 1500, Capri 1500 & GT, Cortina 1500 & GT, Corsair 1500 & GT, Corsair V4, Cortina 1300 Mk 2, Cortina 1600 Mk2, Capri 1300 & GT, Cortina Mk3 1300 & 1600, between 1962 and 1976, this was a 4 speed all synchro seperate bellhousing 'box, single selector rail on models from 1969. Three rail and direct change (type4)used previously, and single rail (2300 'box) uses the light casing. Ratios are 1=3.343, 2=2.396, 3=1.412, 4=1. the gearbox for the Corsair 2000E was also installed in the Lotus Cortina Mk2, Escort Twin Cam, RS1600, Mexico Mk1, Cortina Mk2 1600GT & E, Capri 1600GT, XLR, etc, Cortina Mk3 1600GT &GXL, between 1966 and 1974, the gear ratios were 1=2.972, 2=2.010, 3=1.397, 4=1, this 'box featured the same casing as the earlier type, with single rail on all models from 1969, except the Escorts which retained the 3 rail version 2300, more commonly known as the 2000E. So hopefully you can find a book about one of these types to help you out, although none mentions a type 2821E gearbox, I dialled "Ford 2821E gearbox" into Google and got 3 hits so this maybe is a strange number, seemed to relate to the tail shaft housing????, any way have fun and if you want a copy of this blurb mail me direct, regards Nigel. " So.... if Redline can't help there should be a Ford parts supplier somewhere who can supply one. BTW the left hand drive crossflow/Escort box Sevens had a hydralic clutch. Would the slave cylinder from that fit? Ken Sailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manwiths4 Posted June 30, 2004 Author Share Posted June 30, 2004 Well, have just mailed redline, so we shall see.... The mechanic who gets most of my bits tells me that the ford part numbering system is all to pot, consequently its not a shock that the part number seems to relate to the wrong bit ! Hadn't thought of the LHD crossflows, although i had reard of their being made, will look into that also. In the mean time, can anyone suggest a good ford spares man...? the normal channels have come up blank to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 hi, give dale a ring--0150-926-4550(cortina spares) really knows his stuff--got me same part you need+proper push rod--you will need to know which bell housing you have--its cast on by clutch fork, my 82 twink s3 is a 105e yours could well be the same? good luck with the build---john jdb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul w Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 A lot of those types of spares seem to be more common here in NZ. Try Ken at www.lotus.co.nz, he generally knows how to get his hands on any litle piece. If he can't be arsed dealing internationally with such a small item tell him you have a club-member who will do the leg-work (me). In that case I'll pay for it and send it off and you can fix me up when it arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manwiths4 Posted July 1, 2004 Author Share Posted July 1, 2004 Wil try Dale Cortina ! thanks. And thank you very much antipodean deity ! Hopefully i can locate one on this side of the world, but you never know what it may come too. A NZ mate of mine has said that the NZ'ers are good at keeping old machines running... sounds like he was right! .....................seeking parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Septimus Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 I think it's the same one as my S3, 3 rail box and seperate bell housing. I couldn't find a replacement slave cylinder last year and Redline were out of Recon kits but JAG very kindly found me a kit as he works for the successor company to the original manufacturer. Suspect that the old Ford people may be able to help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manwiths4 Posted July 1, 2004 Author Share Posted July 1, 2004 Well, Mick @ redline has the repair kit, not sure about..dale (cortina chap), awaiting reply. If reconditioned, is there any real danger the slave will expand and crack its mount on the bell housing? Just a nasty thought someone put in my head, but i suspect it would take some time as the corrosion is not nice, but not hugely drastic. (the slave is stuck at the moment). Other than heat / bash, (tentatively), is ther a cunning tip for removing such a stuck slave !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Septimus Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 I applied a fair amount of force plus heating the surrounding metal to try and push mine out of the bellhousing and when it became apparent that the slave would be damaged by my efforts, I reconned it in situ. Not too difficult with the bellhousing on its own on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manwiths4 Posted July 1, 2004 Author Share Posted July 1, 2004 Thats looking increasingly likely as the best option i think..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 your slave will be held in by a circlip? right bloody fiddle! lets body revolve--the more sought after slave has a larger bore(7/8") i think---as fitted to lotus cortinas --2821e three rail box - dale only after 4.30pm before 8.30pm tell him john in weymouth gave you his number good hunting! jdb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Septimus Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 The circlip came off OK but the cylinder was firmly stuck in the bellhousing and there had presumably been some interesting electrolytic stuff going on as there was a line of white crud around the joint. It wasn't going to move without extreme prejudice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted July 1, 2004 Share Posted July 1, 2004 thats strange-- my old one and my new one both were a loose-ish fit allowing the cylinder to revolve - number on slave--64067950(new one)bigger bore type --- 105e bellousing 2000e 3-rail box --john jdb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manwiths4 Posted July 1, 2004 Author Share Posted July 1, 2004 interesting electrolytic stuff is one way of putting it, welded in is another......through alloys reaction with air N cast iron... Circlip a breeze to remove, slave definately not so. Cant read any numbers, too manky ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manwiths4 Posted July 4, 2004 Author Share Posted July 4, 2004 Got a slave from a nice man in Lincoln..... Sounds like its easier to find than rocking horse deposits, but not much and getting more difficult ! He told me the tool for manufacturing them was destroyed, so i would suggest anyone who needs one get it sooner rather than later. Someone had better figure an ingenious workaround, i may need it myself in years to come !!! Thanks for all the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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