Mike C Posted June 23, 2001 Share Posted June 23, 2001 I've heard in the past that there is some handling advantage to be had by removing the rear anti roll bar. The car is a 94 Vauxhall hpc, with wide track on the front, running 325lb springs up front. Any feedback would be appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRIS CLARK Posted June 23, 2001 Share Posted June 23, 2001 From your other query, I'd say that removing the rear ARB allows the split rims wheels to fit!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted June 23, 2001 Share Posted June 23, 2001 Mike, I have just been openeing up the boxes of Roberts Superlight kit with him and the rear ARB assy is the same as yours. He has R500 wheels but SLR wheels would not havbe changed the ARB configfuration it would seem. He also got given a Vauxhall propshaft (shorter). Do you think Caterham are trying to tell him something??? It is interesting the K series sits further forward in the chassis (705mm prop vs 645 for Ford/VX). Unless this is recovered in the bellhousing length (which I will measure) seems the weight adv of the K could be lost through its positional mass. No wonder the VX cars still clean up in the 750 club series.......... Arnie Webb The Fat Bloke blush.gif who's running inwink.gifPlease pass! See Fat Arnies U/J eater here See the Le Mans Trip Website here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike C Posted June 23, 2001 Author Share Posted June 23, 2001 yes Chris, correct! And also the official recommendation from Caterham. They just said, to remove it as the only option here!! Arnie, Now you have got me curious! How can CaterhaM supply a set up that would definitley not work with SLR wheels?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caterham Aftersales Posted June 23, 2001 Share Posted June 23, 2001 Here I am just bored and browsing around the web. Can't help but make a few comments... Mike, depends who you talk to regarding the rear ARB as different people prefer different car setups. My two-penneth would suggest that with such a stiff front, removing the rear-anti roll bar is likely to introduce a shed-load of understeer. Arnie, is the ARB for the underslung position? The Rover engine actually sits a couple of inches further back in the chassis. Compare the position of Robert's gear lever gaitor to yours. Simon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Tin Man Posted June 23, 2001 Area Representative Share Posted June 23, 2001 Arnie, The propshaft for a K-Series is 650mm long (+/-3mm). The builld manual I have states 703mm long (+/-3mm). I thought Caterham had set me the wrong one, but a phone call to the factory confirmed I had the right propshaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted June 24, 2001 Share Posted June 24, 2001 Simon, A mistake in the build manual regarding the prop lengths?(i.e reversed) Would seem logical that the VX one is longer..... The ARB in Roberts Superlight kit is an over the diff type unless they look extremely similar. Must admit I didn't look at the alloy bush clamps. Now, even I, am really confused...... Arnie Webb The Car in Front is Full of Lard....wink.gif See Fat Arnies LardMobile here See the Le Mans Trip Website here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelspeed Posted June 24, 2001 Share Posted June 24, 2001 Remove it in the short term. Long term I think consencus of opionion is that having a softly set rear bar is a good thing so: Mod the chassis rails to fit a SLR rear bar, rearward facing above the lower chassis tubes, under the diff. You'll need to weld or braze mounting tubes into the chassis tubes just behind the front mounting point of the A frame. Not done it but thought about it, doesn't look too hard. Or get a bar from Juno, they made me an adjustable bar that fits to the two square plates under the tank, runs forwards below the de dion tube to the ear and clears the rims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Ince Posted June 24, 2001 Share Posted June 24, 2001 Arnie Small point but to put the record straight a Vauxhall engine has not won a 750MC Caterham race this year. Indeed cars with K series engines with Roller Barrels have won every race this year. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted June 24, 2001 Share Posted June 24, 2001 Richard I was referring to the previous championship winners! Graham, Looks like SL's are shipped with the same roll bar setup as the the HPC's were 9 yrs ago. With the same setup used on the JPE (fitted with SLR wheels towards the end of its production run) and all SL's being supplied with the rear bar kit and irrespective of the VHPD option pack (includes the big wheels)its a bit odd this lot does not fit concurrently. What you say about the smaller dia bar is what I have found. I use the 3/8 bar on the third from soft setting. Works for me. Arnie Webb The Car in Front is Full of Lard....wink.gif See Fat Arnies LardMobile here See the Le Mans Trip Website here Edited by - fat arnie on 24 Jun 2001 22:23:18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL Wain Posted June 25, 2001 Share Posted June 25, 2001 Arnie Caterham only supply the underslung ARB if Watts Link is specified. Thats what they told me. ALan Wain L7 VVC (by August I hope!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted June 27, 2001 Share Posted June 27, 2001 Richard, Yes you are right, it is such a amall point so why bring it up?. Does anybody actually care which engines are winning ?? Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridgway Posted June 27, 2001 Share Posted June 27, 2001 yep i do graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted June 28, 2001 Share Posted June 28, 2001 Taz, Richard obviously does...... Al, The Superlight 1.6 kit Robert has has a Watts link supplied. He didn't specify it! Arnie Webb The Car in Front is Full of Lard....wink.gif See Fat Arnies LardMobile here See the Le Mans Trip Website here Edited by - fat arnie on 28 Jun 2001 09:50:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike C Posted June 28, 2001 Author Share Posted June 28, 2001 Thanks all who contributed to my original query,. The issue has now been resolved by the fitment of a Juno adjustable rear anti roll bar! It works and it leaves ample clearance for the rear wheels, a good solution to the problem should any one else encounter it! Thanks Mike C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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