Harry Flatters Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Andy, I was going to point you to the original version of this thread, but It seems to have disappeared. So... This was something that I kicked off with SPA a year or so ago. At the time they did not do a fuel level gauge and had no plans to because of LCD development costs and that unlike oil temp etc, you can't just supply a strandard fuel level sender cos every car is different. However they did have a bash at producing something that would work with simple in-tank resistance-based senders like what are used in Caterhams. What they did was to take a standard Fuel Pressure/Volts gauge and adapt it to the purpose. It works like this. They supply a small box of tricks (size of a matchbox) which has two leads from it. One is a standard connection to the gauge and the other is a single wire that connects directly to the wire from your existing fuel level sender. The box reads the varying resistance from the sender and converts this into a voltage that can be read by the pressure half of the gauge. The software in the gauge has been modified to allow the entry of certain parameters to permit the gauge to display a numerical value between 0 and a maximum capacity (say 36 litres). The only other change to the display is to remove the "PSI" or "BAR" legends that would normally be displayed for a pressure reading. Bear in mind that the accuracy of this digital display is based on linear dimensions ie a box shape tank with 90 deg angles. The Caterham tank is not far off this but it does have a sloping bottom . Having used this unit for over a year, you get used to the readout and the progression of fuel usage and I would say it is a damn fine product. If I was being picky, I would say it would be nice to have a "ltr" or "gal" legend but hey..... They are talking about modifying the setup software to allow the entry of multiple fill points so that the accuracy can be improved. So instead of just saying "this is the setting for empty and this is the setting for full" you will be able to instruct the gauge what to read at say, 0, 5, 10, 15 ltrs etc. Hope all that makes sense. The cost of the gauge is the same as a standard Fuel Pressure/Volts gauge but the box of tricks did cost me an extra £65. One benfit is that you get a spare pressure sender, these normally retail about £90!!!. One final thing, if you are going to order one of these systems, make sure you tell them what type of fuel level gauge you have at the moment. The reason for this is that the sender for the VDO gauge works in the opposite direction (electrically) than the newer Caterham gauges. One has low resistance when empty and high when full and the other is the reverse. BTW - Tony Taylor is the man to speak to at SPA about this gauge. *arrowright*Harry Flatters *arrowright* AKA Steve Mell of Su77on Se7ens and Surrey Joint AO Edited by - Harry Flatters on 9 Jul 2004 10:51:02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy65 Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 Cheers Harry thanks for taking the time to respond, seems like a very good option. Might have to have rethink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Anymore for any more??? Come on chaps - you'll never get cheaper than this. Kaboiinngg! Keep BC free and open for ALL. Membership No. 43xx Alcester Racing 7's Equipe - 🙆🏻™ Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyslr Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 Can we get one like Harry's? I have two other "normal" Spa gauges, lovely they are too, just need to replace the nasty fuel gauge now. Edited by - jimmyslr on 11 Oct 2004 11:14:12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry21p Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 p.s. YHM - no reply as of yet! (i.e. get back to me and I might be in!) P523 BPB - Caterham 21 Captain Scarlet Evolution www.caterham21.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_m Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Is this offer still available ? I'm interested. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 Steve - yes, I believe so. Just need two or so more people to sign-up and make the minimum order no. (10). Drop Mav a line on the e-mail address mentioned somewhere above. I think he's a bit busy at the moment, but the BB is still on. Keep BC free and open for ALL. Membership No. 43xx Alcester Racing 7's Equipe - 🙆🏻™ Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Wong1697456877 Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Hi Mav, Just to confirm, I'm definitely after a fuel pressure/water temp guage - in black if poss. Thanks for organising this! Cheers Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 This will certainly come in handy: here bookmarked and printed as car porn! Zak www.zak7.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Elizabeth Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Would be interested if I could get a Speedo / Shiftlight combo one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 Whats the count up to now then Mav? Zak www.zak7.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 I thought Count pushed off in a huff Any more for anymore? Keep BC free and open for ALL. Membership No. 43xx Alcester Racing 7's Equipe - 🙆🏻™ Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted July 20, 2004 Author Share Posted July 20, 2004 I've just got to have a word with my bro see if he want s in then we'll have enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry21p Posted July 20, 2004 Share Posted July 20, 2004 still don't know if I'm having any as you haven't got back to me!!! that and my car is broke P523 BPB - Caterham 21 Captain Scarlet Evolution www.caterham21.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted July 21, 2004 Author Share Posted July 21, 2004 I did last night though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry21p Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 ok then - will let you off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 BTTT Zak www.zak7.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted July 23, 2004 Author Share Posted July 23, 2004 All. Final details will be posted over the weekend. Once confirmed, then I'll send an e-mail with prices and how to pay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 Yipeee! Boo-hiss I'm still 'in', but it's finally been confirmed that I'm orf to Edinburgh for what promises to be a three-month contract... ...so I'll not get to use them for a while.... ☹️ Keep BC free and open for ALL. Membership No. 43xx Alcester Racing 7's Equipe - 🙆🏻™ Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak Posted July 23, 2004 Share Posted July 23, 2004 YES PLEASE! For two guages both oil/oil Zak www.zak7.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zak Posted July 29, 2004 Share Posted July 29, 2004 Hi Mav, Whats the latest? havent heard a thing Zak www.zak7.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted August 1, 2004 Share Posted August 1, 2004 Saw him today - it's still a go. Just busy. Keep BC free and open for ALL. Membership No. 43xx Alcester Racing 7's Equipe - 🙆🏻™ Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynicolson Posted August 2, 2004 Share Posted August 2, 2004 Mav could be interested in oil dual guage... will know later today having been to 7 Workshop with Mutley for Appolo fitting... Will confirm later Richard Tricks...aka darstardly Y57 CDS "Mutley" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violet Elizabeth Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Righto, things finally coming together on my plans, so am in need of an oil / oil. And that fuel level thingy of Harrys would be perfect Have emailed the BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted August 3, 2004 Share Posted August 3, 2004 Of course you want one Richard... ...Mine's in Edinburgh at the mo if you want to look at it... Keep BC free and open for ALL. Membership No. 43xx Alcester Racing 7's Equipe - 🙆🏻™ Alcester-Racing-Sevens.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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