rynicolson Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 Ok, Mutley is asically a standard SL spec car, 1.6k SS with standard exhaust, wide track, uprated brakes, LSD, lightened fly wheel.... Want to upgrade a few parts, currently (probably in this order as cash restricted) plan is: 4:2:1 exhaust dry sump Alloy rad throttle bodies Is this the right list and have I missed anything obvious? Thoughts needed please on who to get parts from... exhaust - racetech? dry sump - Pace? Alloy rad - CC? T/bodies - DVA? Am I missing anyone I should consider? Who could do the work for me (Non techie / no time)... plan to get it done prior to Alps trip in September (yes bad timing I know).... thanks Richard Tricks...aka darstardly Y57 CDS "Mutley" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted May 26, 2004 Support Team Share Posted May 26, 2004 Alloy rad - try Radtec or Caterham do either an Aluminum road rad or a triple pass race rad. I have a Radtec as do a number of other owners as it is cheaper than the triple pass one from Caterham yet offers a higher level of cooling than the Caterham road one. Dry sump - Pace or Caterham. Search for Pace on here and you should find Hoopy's post on what you need and how to fit it. The Caterham one is more expensive but a "neater" solution due to the bellhousing oil reservoir. Exhaust - Caterham or you could have one made up by any of Powerspeed, Exhaust by Design, Haywood and Scott. I'm sure lot of people will have recommendations or search for those names on here. Throttlebodies - you'll really want a programmable ECU with those so probably best to get an Emerald first and then think about throttle bodies, cams, head work. If you are happy to leave the standard Caterham fold then DVA is probably the best person to talk to. Yellow SL #32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 Why a new radiator ? , is the present one broken ? To operate the throttle bodies you will also need a programable ECU , trumpets , air filter & throttle linkage . Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynicolson Posted May 26, 2004 Author Share Posted May 26, 2004 Shaun... based on Hoopy's breakdown at the weekend not sure I'll follow his lead 😬 Seriously though, yes understand throttle bodies = ecu etc etc, dave radiator Ok but getting somewhat tired and is just "one the list" temperatures OK so could move this down the list after t/boddies. I am told that the pace d/sump is better than CC due to the system set up.... Dave (Hoopy) if you read this can you tell me if you got a CC rad or radtec in the end? I'll post on Tourse7en to get you also. Keep em coming R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V7 SLR Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 I would say: Exhaust Emerald Dry sump (PACE is cheaper) Stop there and assess performance. Those items above will remove the obvious restrictions to more power and make the engine capable of taking more. Throttle bodies may not give anymore power but may increase response. You might be better off with new cams rather than TB's to get more power. The Emerald will already give you better responses. After the 3 items above I'd speak with DVA about further upgrades but you will need to understand what it is you're trying to achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynicolson Posted May 26, 2004 Author Share Posted May 26, 2004 Nigel... Which exhaust... you know me I like shiney! Will contact Emerald itmt R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarek Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 Driver training first, toys second. Learn to drive what you currently have quicker and you will save a packet, and use your current car nearer to it's potential. Upgrade the car and you are left driving a "better" car further from it's potential. I'll take it out for a spin....tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david nelson Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 If you what sticky rubber the get it dry sumped. The exhaust will free up some power without changing the ecu.. Then drive it get use to it again. The see if you need a new ecu.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V7 SLR Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 I'd probably go for a RaceCo can on someone else's manifold and collector. If you're staying as a 1.6 then get a 4-1 collector. Caterham's is OK, but could be better. The RaceCo can is titanium and it VERY shiny. Lovely piece of kit. Might get one for V7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Martyr Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 Amen to Tarek. Only when the driver is faster than the car should the car be upgraded. It took me two totaaly reliable car years to catch up with a 1.6SS before upgrading each year after track days and Le Septs. Now, once again, it is faster and equally unreliable to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgrigsby Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 Another thumbs up for both the RaceCo can and the Radtec radiators, I have both and they are superb. Rob G www.SpeedySeven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynicolson Posted May 26, 2004 Author Share Posted May 26, 2004 Tarek / Tony... I totally agree..... BUT.... after 2 previous se7ens and a fair load of cash spent on both track and road tuition I am now wanting to further upgrade this car (not selling!)... dry sump is more for oil pressure safety as my current use is going to kill it one day as the pressure is dropping too often, the euc/t bodies/ exhaust to give me some more grunt in a straight line... my local track has a long up hill straight, I'm reasonably quick on the twisties but then get dumped again on the straight... not wishing to create disagreements as I totally concur with your points in regards to road safety and driver vs machine capability. David valid point, might do exhaust then do ecu in winter.... Richard Tricks...aka darstardly Y57 CDS "Mutley" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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