Phil Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Anybody know if they are available as a weight saving option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 Great minds ..... I've recently become aware of the chrome plating flaking off my standard nuts I guess it's due to my use of a socket instead of the toolkit tool. I found some Stainless ones advertised, but they're NOT cheap and I'd rather endure the chromium plate sticking into my fingers and the messy rust. BRG Summertime Brooklands SV 😬 It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye. (Antoine de Saint-Exupery) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 8, 2004 Author Share Posted April 8, 2004 Caterham themselves do stainles ones about £2.50 each, a company called Wheelwright do anodised alloy ones but I wondered if there was any problems with alloy nuts sticking etc, the other problem is they are blue or red coulr and will look a little tacky I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant Posted April 8, 2004 Share Posted April 8, 2004 IIRC you need steel ones if you're going to do any sprints or similar - MSA regs......May not be an issue, but something to bear in mind. J351 TPE - Now with 12 months MOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe 90 Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Some Porsche 911s are fitted with alloy wheel nuts. You have to be meticulous about torqueing them correctly, because you can easily strip them (and they're NOT cheap ) Off the road Photos here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelspeed Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 Focus WRC uses titanium wheel studs, think they were £30 (each!), when they did a why a WRC costs £400k type article. Not sure what they use for wheel nuts, don't think it will be titanium again as there's a galling problem with titanium on titanium. I use the standard MB nuts but like others have said they're constantly lightening themselves by shedding the chrome coating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMO Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 I have used titanium fasteners on engines and race bikes. Not had a problem with galling. You can titanium nitride coat if a problem arrises. The material was 6Al4V if I remember correctly. I would probably use titanium nuts on steel studs for wheels. Not so sure about ali nuts. They scare me a bit. They get used on rally cars but are probably replaced on a regular basis. I have some titanium metal stock and was thinking about making some wheel nuts. However as the car is still in a million bits it is not high on my list of priorities. If people are interested I could probably have a batch of Ford type nuts made. Probably not cheap though. I used to get titanium components made in Estonia but prices have gone up a lot recently. There are a couple of companies in Italy who make Ti fasteners. Also expensive. Get in touch if interested. AMMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy S Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 Guys, I think MOG supply alloy wheel nuts with their light weight split rims. They might be able to produce some for other types of wheels as well as their own. May be worth speaking to Joachim. Andy K18 FUN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMO Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 I've had a couple of people email me that are interested in ti wheel nuts. I will get a quote next week. The more people interested the cheaper the price. I have no idea what sort of money they will come to. I'll post back when I know. In the meantime anybody else who is interested should get in touch. AMMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmandsd Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 I'd be up for a set Ammo. Home of HTR700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 And me so long as the price is reasonable Can we have them open ended , to save a little more weight ? Lotus 7 Club Speed Champion 2003 South Wales Area Organiser C7 TOP Edited by - Dave Jackson on 10 Apr 2004 17:33:23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmandsd Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 Good idea Dave - I run long rear studs and need to cut the ends of mine currently. Home of HTR700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMO Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 I'll get a quote for 100 Ti nuts. Thats six sets and a few spares. I will make only the Ford type M12? open ended ones 60 degree? taper. I have a pettern so they will be made properly. I will dimension them for minimum weight in terms of length and may even change to a smaller hex, probably 17 mm instead of 19mm. Sound OK? As per usual when I organise these things I do it only so I can get what I want for myself at a reasonable price. If any anonymous Novice should come along and accuse me of making a profit you will be told to sod right off. Hope the position is clear. AMMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Ammo , please give us an idea of price *before* you commit to materials Cheers Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifty Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Ammo, Stop beating around the bush and spit it out man *tongue* 😬 😬 😬 P.S. Could be interested but suspect cost will be beyond budget Keep off the straight and narrow 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmandsd Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 For gods sake give the man a chance - he said he'd go away and get us a quote for 100 nuts at 10.09 this morning............it is also Easter day lets not forget Home of HTR700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelspeed Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Will these fit the Barnby wheels? The thread will obviously be the same but Barnby wheels have a flat seated washer and a narrower than normal sleeve so presumably not. If the currently planned deal works out would you be interested in doing a second lot to suit Barnby wheels? I guess it depends on interest, I'd certainly be up for a set, I can supply a pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMO Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Chelspeed Does the washer rotate or is it fixed? In other words is it a one piece item? I may be able to design the Ford type nut so we can make some of the Barnby type by doing an extra machining operation. Can't tell you without seeing it. Send me a sample if you like. My address is in the Raceco ad in Low Flying. Nifty I have no time in my busy schedule for petty pain in the arse types. Life is too short. Just in case some idiot comes out of the woodwork, I don't want to be writing pages of text to justify myself. I've seen what has happened in the past with bulk buys and I have no time for it. I will of course post a price before I go ahead and order anything. AMMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMO Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Was that last post a bit OTT? I must be going through an agressive phase in my life. 😬 AMMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murph7355 Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 The washer rotates on the nut of the MB wheels. I suspect it'd be a pain to make them and the machining would be a lot of extra hassle. But I'd be interested if you did some...don't have a spare to hand unfortunately. PS I think your last one to nifty was a tad harsh - he did use smileys :) That said, I can fully understand your sentiments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelspeed Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Ok it's on it's way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Please note , my post wasnt being pushy ..... just that I dont want you ending up with a mound of Ti on the workbench and no buyers Lotus 7 Club Speed Champion 2003 South Wales Area Organiser C7 TOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Ammo Interested subject to price, will match my wheel arch protectors Thanks Wingnut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmandsd Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Amo, my interest is in the BM wheel nuts aswell - I thought it was this design that you were originally referring to. Home of HTR700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighead Posted April 12, 2004 Share Posted April 12, 2004 *eek*ti nuts steel studs Be very careful if you use these , 1 there could be a problem with ti/steel corosion if left together for a long time without the correct kind of lube. 2 If the correct torque is not used for these, you stand a good chance of stripping the stud before the nut , therefore giving yourself a right old pain in the 🙆🏻 job of replacing the studs. But having said that YOU PAYS YOUR MONEY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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