flaps7 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Need an helemet (BS6658...) for novice trackday. I'm also developing an urge to remove the screen. Any recommendations for emporiams in the Herts area, or thereabouts. I live in Welwyn Garden. Flaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesElliott Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 Grand Prix Racewear in Chiswick isn't too far from you..... Charles --- My Caterham Academy 2004 Diary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Support Team Shaun_E Posted February 10, 2004 Support Team Share Posted February 10, 2004 GPR also have a store at Silverstone which might be easier for you to get to. ISTR that they have recently upgraded to a larger unit there so should have a good range. Shaun Yellow SL #32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmdh555 Posted February 10, 2004 Share Posted February 10, 2004 I've just bought an OMP full-face wide aperture jobbie from Demon Tweeks (website - so who cares where they are ). Fair price and turned up next day... I did go into a local bike shop and try a few on first. Didn't have anything suitable but gave me an idea on what size I'd need. HTH, Gareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flaps7 Posted February 10, 2004 Author Share Posted February 10, 2004 As I've an odd shaped head (so my mum tells me !!!) and I have over size ears I would like to try before I buy. Flaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J A T Richardson Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Mums know best!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Gregory Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Flaps Have you looked at HJC helmets, normally available from motorcycle outlets. I bought one (ZF7) a couple of years ago for trackdays. It is full face, light, I find it very comfortable & it cost about £110. It is approved to BS6658:1985 Type A & according to the MSA blue book is eligible for all MSA events. I plan to use it for Grads racing this year. It does not have a flame retardant lining. The website is www.hjchelmets.com. HTH Mark PS: No, I don't work for HJC......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_pank Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Mark, are you sure that this isn't just approved for Motorcycle track events? I thought that motorcycle helmets were more abrasion resistant whereas car ones tend to be more fireproof... C Charlie'n'Kermit The plan is: There is no plan S5EVN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Gregory Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Charlie No, I don't think so. If you look at the 2004 MSA blue book, section: Q, Topic: 10. Crash helmets. Paragraph: 10.3.1 Standards (page: 244). It lists all the appropriate standards. Helmets to BS6658-85 Type A are suitable for all MSA events. If you want to compete in International events as well as MSA events your helmet needs to comply with: BS6658-85 Type A/FR. I think the different between the two refers to the flame retardant lining (FR). Incidentally I haven't put this to the test thro' scrutineering, but I intend to try after some more thorough research. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_pank Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 I also think that the car helmets have larger chin bars. Which are not allowed on bikes because of the restricted view. Charlie'n'Kermit The plan is: There is no plan S5EVN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Gregory Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Charlie You could be right on the abrasion resistance and chin bars. It may well be that there are other features which are specific to the application (bikes or cars). I would like to know what tests the helmets are subjected to during the BS6658 testing. It is interesting to note that the same British Standard is used to test both 'types' of helmet. If I had more time I would obtain a copy of BS6658 to find out more about the tests used. Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asklepios Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Charlie/Mark, Both the Snell and BSI standards are well published on the net. The new european m/c standard seems to be cornering the bike market ,so some deals might be had on old stock at a m/c shop. The important thing is fit Some people have argued that going for Formula 1 standards ,designed for very high impact, may be poorer in function for our more humble use. The arguements can be seen on various site on the web. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Gregory Posted February 11, 2004 Share Posted February 11, 2004 Asklepios Because I am a bit of a lazy s*d, can you post addresses of relevant sites. Thanks Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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