Jason Plato Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Oh grief - if your going to take up the cat issue with the scrutineers , then does this mean it will be enforced ??? It needs clarifying but only to the extent of a statement that that the club will not be enforcing this requirement . DONT DO IT FOR CHRIST SAKE ❗ IT WILL CAUSE HAVOC ps - I dont need a cat , I'm just thinking of others ...... Edited by - Dave Jackson on 4 Feb 2004 09:02:09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxseven Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Agree with Dave Keep Cat issue within the club and discuss on the 28th Feb. Simon Emmens Caterham and Pussy Photos here 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 well at least class 6 will have more than 2 competitors unfortunatelty I suspect every other class will have a lot less rob ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Perry Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Further improved chances for Crossflows as a consequence perhaps 😬 Edited by - Graham Perry on 4 Feb 2004 10:09:08 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 only if they are road legal , according to those that want to bring in this rule will we all have to get log books to run in class 6 rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipper Jnr Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 I think this thread had uncovered a couple of main discussion point regarding the regs: 1) What is meant by "standard production" 🤔 are our regs going to mirror historic rally regs which state that if a car is produced by the factory with the part under question, the part is considered standard production. But it is up to the competitor to prove this is the case. and 2) What is a "road legal condition" 🤔 i.e. could you protest about somebody competing with an empty washer bottle 😳 or a big chip in the middle of their windscreen Rob Ford: Engineered for life - built to rust!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenEvans Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 The Blue Book says...... Roadgoing Production Cars (which we are not) - .......Induction is free as are exhaust systems........(which presumably means you can do what the hell you like with it as long as it meets the noise regs.) Then right beneath it Roadgoing Specialist Production Cars (which we are) makes no specific reference to induction or exhaust strangely but I would have thought if the exhaust is free on Roadgoing Production Cars then this will also read across to Roadgoing Specialist Production cars. I see no reference to catalysts anywhere. Ken Edited by - KenEvans on 4 Feb 2004 13:42:26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 MSA regs are one thing , the Specific Regs are another . I say we leave it be and discuss on 28th 🤔 can we have chips and custard on 28th for lunch ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelspeed Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 You only need a log book in class 6 if you're not road legal.... Oh, bugger, that's where we started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 personally I am happy for the debatee to contiune as I think it is reasonably healthy, plus it means we go to the 28th with the main topics we need to discuss and the implicatiions already known (potentially) rob PS dave did you want youur chips and custard on the same plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Chelspeed - exactly the point I was inferring 😬 rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 No Rob , the debate is healthy . I meant that the issue of the cats should be kept inside the club at least untill the 28th . Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 aha gotcha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberts Wallet Posted February 4, 2004 Author Share Posted February 4, 2004 OK, has anyone answered my question yet 🤔 Been away from blatchat so not been able to read all 8 pages. Can I run my VVC plenum or not Blue and Carbon 6 Speed Supersport Edited by - Gareth Harrold on 4 Feb 2004 14:43:49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Gareth- I think you can run it, however you will be in class 4 or 5 dependent on tyres this year as always I will defer to BB and Brian for confirmation next year who knows rob Edited by - robmar on 4 Feb 2004 14:47:16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Locust Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Stirrer ❗ I think the consensus was..............................on about page 3 ❗ Ian Green and Silver Roadsport 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Ranson Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 I see no reference to catalysts anywhere. E12.6.7 "Exhaust catalytic converters may be specified for certain disciplines or formulae. Competitors are reminded of their obligation to maintain such equipment on a vehicle used on the highway where government legislation requires it." I suggest that means that unless catalysts are specifically required then the MSA don't really care for motorsport purposes. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberts Wallet Posted February 4, 2004 Author Share Posted February 4, 2004 Yes, but what about me Plenum Blue and Carbon 6 Speed Supersport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Gareth - what bit about my last post didn't you understand with regard your plenum 🤔 rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrelevant Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Another slightly O/T question and I have looked for the answer and can't find it . . . anyway; What are the specific regs that the club set for race suits? I know it's not full FIA8856-2000 certificaton, but what is it? IIRC it's just a suit made from flameproof non-flammable material. Is this correct? J351 TPE . . . battered old X/Flow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Locust Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 😬 Ian Green and Silver Roadsport 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberts Wallet Posted February 4, 2004 Author Share Posted February 4, 2004 Can be a Single layer Proban suit (£50 ish) or Nomex, depending on your budget. Now, what about me plenum...or I'll close the thread 😳 Blue and Carbon 6 Speed Supersport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmar Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 gareth I will startr getting upset if you continuue to ignore me Gareth- I think you can run it, however you will be in class 4 or 5 dependent on tyres this year as always I will defer to BB and Brian for confirmation next year who knows from 14:47 today rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 regs state "induction must be via the standard production plenum" So what was the standard plenum on the car when produced ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberts Wallet Posted February 4, 2004 Author Share Posted February 4, 2004 Did some say something 🤔 Blue and Carbon 6 Speed Supersport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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