fastforward Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 I've searched but I can't find the answer (though this has come up before). What was the best way to stick the rear view mirror to the air brake. Mine fell off during the hot(!) weather this last week end and I ought to put it back. Brian brianfyfe@ema.org.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 Brian, When mine fell off some years ago, I paid a quick visit to Halfords and bought a double sided adhesive pad, about 1 inch square, which did the job. A more permanent solution is to dump the air brake and fit aeros, then screw the mirror to the scuttlecool.gif Dave H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EFA Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 Clean the screen and the mirror with cellulose thinners before you apply the pad. it'll then bond much stronger. Arnie Webb The Fat Bloke blush.gif in a not so Slow Vauxhall wink.gif See the R500 eater here See the Le Mans Trip Website here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FH Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 Gosh, I know the answer to a Technical Question thumbsup.gif Only because we've just done it blush.gif Get clean surfaces as described above. Have hairdryer at the ready. One side of the double-sided sticky pad has a green backing. This goes on the windscreen. However, you apply the other sticky surface to the warmed mirror first. Then warm the windscreen with care. Peel orf the green plastic and press the mirror to the windscreen, holding it in place until the windscreen cools. This is how manufacturers do it and it should be good for a couple of years (ostensibly) although whether it holds up to being exposed to the elements for that length of time is yet to be discovered teeth.gif FH smile.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Sewell Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 If you are using your doors (or have other mirrors to cover nearside and offside reqs) then leave the oversized lump of glass at home. There is no legal requirement for a mirror on the windscreen and it blocks a large section of the view to the nearside kerb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Russell Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 Graham, I think you will find that there is a legal requirement for an internal mirror, unless your vehicle has no rear view due to a bulkhead or similar.ie.a Transit Van type vehicle. I posted the exact regulation a month or so back and would recommend that you search it out for the precise position.Sorry!! FH, are you terribly refined? Or did your finger slip? "...peel orf...." No offence.... Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FH Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 Andrew - my finger never slips if I can help it wink.gif Twas but a jest teeth.gif FH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Russell Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 FH, biggrin.gif Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Sewell Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 I would be interested in the legislation as I have driven this way for 6 years, with 6 MOTs and never had an interior mirror. THe MOT specifies an offside mirror and either a nearside or central mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Sewell Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 From the detr site it appears that for cars registered before 1978 only one mirror is required. For all other cars there must be an offside miror and one other. Edited by - Graham Sewell on 5 Apr 2001 16:00:12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastforward Posted April 5, 2001 Author Share Posted April 5, 2001 Graham Hi & Ah ha. My se7en is OWC 417 P though built later. I like my mirror cos of habit from the tin top so thanks everyone you came up trumps on solutions, as usual, but then to have such a collection of deities respond. Satisfaction guaranteed from blatchatters.(Can't wait for my stickers) Brian brianfyfe@ema.org.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Russell Posted April 5, 2001 Share Posted April 5, 2001 Graham, Have a look at the thread started on 19.2.220 by PACR. The relevant legislation is the Road Vehicles( Construction and Use)Regs.1986 S.I.1986 no.1078. You need an offside mirror and an internal, unless that would not give you any rear vision. Then you can get away with your second mirror to the nearside. I think you have been lucky with your MOT tester! Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRIS CLARK Posted April 6, 2001 Share Posted April 6, 2001 If you don't fancy using the cellulose thinners to clean the 'screen prior to attachment, may I recommend the use of 'Surgical Spirit'. It can be obtained from 'Boots' etc and will do a great job!!! Dave H. Had to be an 'advert' in there on your posting somewhere!!!!!!!!! I actually dumped the original mirror as I found it blocked my view of l/h apex's and reverted to a suction cup (small) unit as used (I believe)on the series 2. Mirror has the 'Trafalgar' brand on it. Yes, it sometimes comes off but sticks back easily with a push! Edited by - chris clark on 6 Apr 2001 08:18:05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Sewell Posted April 6, 2001 Share Posted April 6, 2001 Andrew, I read your comment on the previous thread, but surely the DETR would get their own site of regs correct! After all, it is the DETR that set up these silly rules and get the police to enforce them. So as the date on the web site page is 2000, then I presume that it supercedes a 1986 SI. Apply nomex garments and running for cover... Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Russell Posted April 6, 2001 Share Posted April 6, 2001 Graham, All I would say is that you must bear in mind that the DETR is staffed by Civil Servants, who never make mistakes do they????? The reference book from which I lifted the S.I. is still up to date, as far as I know, and I cannot see that such a 'trivial' subject would justify a redraft of the Regulations. However, I'm sure that having read the DETR advise, you could try to rely upon it to argue the point, in the event that you were stopped. The Police would probably rely upon the S.I. rather than the DETR website, though! I still believe that the DETR are wrong in their interpretation....... Just between you and me, I am a former Police Officer and now a lawyer...... Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JampJ Posted April 6, 2001 Share Posted April 6, 2001 First thing,make sure you get a pucker sticker(FORD),a lot of the aftermarket ones don't last long.I set mine about 6" left of centre towards the near side,gives a much clearer view. CHEERS C7 POW. ch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Campbell Posted April 6, 2001 Share Posted April 6, 2001 I started a similar thread last year when I knocked my mirror off. The Halford pads work but you have to make sure the screen & mirror arm are properly cleaned as this thread says. I warmed the : 1) screen using the screen heater on my car. 2) the back of the mirror arm on the gas ring in the kitchen (carefully !) Applied the pad to the mirror arm 3) warm the pad / mirror arm on the kitchen ring again (carefully !) run outside and position the mirror (carefully). It's been stuck firmly ever since smile.gif Cheers, Steve Campbell P889 GRR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Plato Posted April 6, 2001 Share Posted April 6, 2001 Try usinf a rear view mirror from Halfords designed for keeping an eye on the rug rats on the back seat . The mirror is convex and about the size of a pack of fags , and sticks onto the screen with a good suction pad . This has the advantages of being small hence not restricting view but convex to give a supurb field of vision . Plus its only £5 Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murph7355 Posted April 10, 2001 Share Posted April 10, 2001 The Halfords sticky pads are OK, but when they get wet (rain or, worse, condensation) and/or the temperature changes quite quickly I find they always eventually succumb and I find the rear view mirror in the passenger seat (where it currently is! I didn't re-stick it after a screen swap you see...). But much better is a little "kit" Halfords do (or used to, I've not looked recently). It has some green mesh and a bottle of glue (and it may also have a rubber pad but I don't think it did). Clean the mirror base and the screen, apply the glue to the mirror base and drop the mesh onto it. Let it go tacky then hold it tightly to the screen for about 10mins. This is a bit of a chore, but the final bond is bloody brilliant and resistant to most attempts to get it off that don't involve knives etc. I'll be getting another of these kits at the weekend to re-attach my rvm, but may also have a quick look round for an alternative mirror that doesn't block half the screen out! I'm almost tempted to leave the car with just my two wing mirrors... C7 AJM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastforward Posted April 10, 2001 Author Share Posted April 10, 2001 Hi, guys and gals. Thanks all sorted and back to its proper place as recommended by you. The car behind is going backwards (gulp). Brian brianfyfe@ema.org.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastforward Posted April 10, 2001 Author Share Posted April 10, 2001 Buttttt they come in packs of two!! Brian brianfyfe@ema.org.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairman Roger Posted April 10, 2001 Share Posted April 10, 2001 Whilst your mirror is off (and assuming all factory supplied mirrors are the same) break the arm from the mirror by twisting out the ball joint (yes it will fit back in). Trim some of the plastic surround of the ball joint, reassemble to the stalk and fit the mirror stalk to the screen 180 rotated. This will give better through the screen visibility and will still fit under a hood (if I remember correctly) Try it before you stick it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastforward Posted April 10, 2001 Author Share Posted April 10, 2001 I'm an angel, how sweet. Brian brianfyfe@ema.org.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastforward Posted April 10, 2001 Author Share Posted April 10, 2001 Chairman, shucks but I will bear in mind your suggestion when I use the next sticker. (How exciting is this) Brian brianfyfe@ema.org.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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