AMMO Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Although a bit steep at around £400.00 for four kilos weight saving I'm tempted to buy one. Is there more than one manufacturer of these? Best place to buy? Are they reliable? I have heard stories of casings cracking. If this is the case I will steer clear as the car is mainly for road use and I don't want any reliability problems. AMMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Perry Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Ammo YHM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taran Las Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Ammo, I would be interested in any information you acquire on this subject (if you don't mind passing it on). Philip. D. Owen Membership No. 3976 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaseb Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Me too, my lardy 7's about to join weightwatchers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Me too. Ammo, can you post some findings? Maybe with a few people interested we can get a discount? Greg, Q 86 NTM (slow Green XFlow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe 90 Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Quaife are the only manufacturer as far as I know. I would have thought that they would produce something decent that doesn't crack. There are definitely cases of alloy bell housings cracking. About to unpick the wiring loom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMO Posted November 12, 2003 Author Share Posted November 12, 2003 Apparently the Quaife ali casing is the one to go for. They also do an ali cover to go with it. Burtons prices are £345.00 + VAT for the case and £58.00 + VAT for the cover. I am willing to organize a bulk buy if enough people are interested. AMMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Im interested, depending on price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonbell Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Ammo I`m planning to use an alloy main case for my new gearbox......I`m planning to buy the whole gearbox though but if you can get a significant saving I may be tempted. I have a type 9 lying here so I could get a gearkit and get someone locally to build it. FOR SALE 1999 Birkin S3 2.0 Zetec 170bhp FOR SALE I`ve seen the future.....and it`s powered by duratec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss_Tony Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Ammo I may be interested in one if the price is right James Su77on Se7ens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Willis Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Ammo, I'd be interested. It'll give Marc something else to do Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Willis Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Ammo, I'd be interested. It'll give Marc something else to do Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMO Posted November 13, 2003 Author Share Posted November 13, 2003 OK Folks. I'll make some calls today and see what I can do. I'll get quotes for five and ten cases with ali covers (apparently these add rigidity). AMMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg Posted November 13, 2003 Share Posted November 13, 2003 BGH? apparently do some strengthening plate ISTR... Anyway, go for it Ammo.... 😬 Greg, Q 86 NTM (slow Green XFlow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMO Posted November 13, 2003 Author Share Posted November 13, 2003 The price I have for the casing is £293.25 + VAT and for the cover is £49.30 + VAT. Delivery is extra. I can have the lot delivered to me. Locals who collect will not incur any further charge. Delivery for those who want the casings sent by courier will be £10.00 + VAT. Casings are in stock but covers need to be made. The stock pressed steel cover can be used while we wait for the ali covers to be delivered for those that want them. We need a minimum of five orders to get the price quoted. Place your orders and we'll go ahead. AMMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMO Posted November 14, 2003 Author Share Posted November 14, 2003 I have received a firm order from James for a casing. With me, that makes two. We need five orders to get the discount. Anybody else? AMMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaseb Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 do they take visa?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMO Posted November 14, 2003 Author Share Posted November 14, 2003 Jase Don't know, I didn't ask. I think the best way to do this is that I collect all the money and pay them. I don't think they will want to mess around doing five individual invoices and taking five payments. It would no longer be a single order for five units. I am more than happy to supply a copy of their invoice to me so you can verify that the payments are equally split between the five purchasers. All I want is to be able to buy one as cheaply as possible for myself. I have 'phoned around transmission people and can confirm that this is the top rate of discount given to the trade. There are around ten on the shelf at the moment but that situation could rapidly change. If anybody can get these cheaper than I can with this deal, I'll buy one from you! 😬 AMMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 Ammo, I'll have a case and lid. Greg, Q 86 NTM (slow Green XFlow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxseven Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 Yes please Ammo YHM L 7 BDA and Pussy Photos here Edited by - Manxseven on 14 Nov 2003 15:29:52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMO Posted November 14, 2003 Author Share Posted November 14, 2003 So far we have: James Ammo Manxseven Greg One more and it's a goer. AMMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bare Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 To my untrained eye.. you guys are nutz.. Toyota 5speder is in Alloy, Mazda (rx7) is in alloy.. BOTH are far superior boxes by anyone's yardstick.. Oem ratios alone are worth the price of admission.. which Ain't even close to what yer contemplating for the 'housing' alone. Even Lotus is finally going to Toyata drive units. Is there some unspoken rule that forces one to 'buy British" against all odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dino ferrana Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 Bare the type 9 is very widely used in this country therefore spares etc. are very easy to get hold of the same could not be said of the other two. Also bellhousings become an issue there are 1001 bellhousings for type 9's to go on K-series, VX and Crossflow (probably others too). If it were that easy then surely someone would have done it by now? Lotus have gone to Toyota units due to them being ready approved for US emission regulations and it being easy to source the spares out there for them. As Rover does not exist in the US using the K-Series was going to be impossible for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMO Posted November 14, 2003 Author Share Posted November 14, 2003 Bare The Toyota does not fit a Ford, Rover or Vauxhall engines. It probably doesn't fit the clutch or output shaft. There is no chance in the world that the gearbox mountings or gearshift locations are the same. Once you have addressed all these issues it is no longer a cheap box is it? Most Caterhams are fitted with a Type 9. It makes sense to lighten what you have rather than get involved in a major transplant. As aside I'm sure my Lotus Excel had a Toyota box in it. Circa 1984 vintage. AMMO Edited by - AMMO on 14 Nov 2003 16:53:12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg Posted November 14, 2003 Share Posted November 14, 2003 Bare, Also I have a Quaife Straight Cut Close Ratio gear set in mine.... Greg, Q 86 NTM (slow Green XFlow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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