Andy G Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 My beloved 1700 Xflow has died, (see previous thread on chit chat) oil pump seized, bottom end tight and teeth stripped of the cam shaft. So... a) who would you recommend for an engine rebuild and b) what worth while mods should I make to the engine current spec gives me 123 BHP at the rear whells ( tested ) revs to 7,000 Andy G ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgrigsby Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 I'd give Roger King a call on 01992 421111 (hmmm is it worrying that I know that number of by heart??) be prepared for a worst case scenario though! The end result will be superb what ever you ask him to do, have a chat about tweaks/upgrades as well as he'll be able to tell you exactly what will help out. Have you got 3D engine management? if not that's probably the first thing to fit. Rob G www.SpeedySeven.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Agree with Rob. Roger will not be cheap mind, but you will end up with a very nice engine. Greg, Q 86 NTM (Green 185BHP XF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby dooby doo Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 just a suggestion - do you want to complete rebuild the XF or perhaps replace it with something else 🤔 This isn't a "Thou shallt have an all aloy 16v demand" I'm just wondering if you want to consider all the options. FWIW I've followed Rob's XF and can vouch its ****ing quick in a straight line - and even quicker in the twisties when Rob's skills come into play. But I've upgraded with another 60 bhp now - so we'll see what happens in the summer in Italy HOOPY R706KGU Hoopylight R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy G Posted June 23, 2003 Author Share Posted June 23, 2003 What are the options for " replace with something else" ? a zetec? I understood that with an early dedion chassis ( circa 1989) my options were pretty limited. But perhaps blatchatters out there know different. Please note I do not have the ability to do the work myself, so any suggestions need the name of a competent workshop attached. Andy G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy G Posted June 23, 2003 Author Share Posted June 23, 2003 ITS EVEN WORSE THAN I THOUGHT 😳 😳 😳 😳 ROGER KING IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE FOR ENGINE REBUILDS Rang him this afternoon, he is not taking any futher work, and is taking a break from engines in general. Now what! Andy G Remember you heard it here first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Fireblade! Do not lisen to the metro powered fraternity 😳 Seriously a conversion to Zetec or Fireblade will probably cost around 3K once you've got all the bits. Worth thinking about. On the mod front I'd go 3D 1st and then have a 244 or even 254 cam, given a decent head, springs and forged pistons etc ... Greg, Q 86 NTM (Green 185BHP XF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby dooby doo Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 prefer my metro engine to a moped engine Is RK retiring / taking a sabatical then 🤔 HOOPY R706KGU Hoopylight R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy G Posted June 23, 2003 Author Share Posted June 23, 2003 RK seems to be taking a sabbatical at least, told me he was closing down for the moment, as the kids were grown up and the mortgage almost paid! Seems a sensible man, doesn't help with my problem much though! Andy G ☹️ Edited by - Andy G on 23 Jun 2003 15:43:20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Hoopy, What moped have you seen with a fireblade engine No doubt someone will find someone on the net who has done it thought! Greg, Q 86 NTM (Green 185BHP XF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team Mcalvert Posted June 23, 2003 Leadership Team Share Posted June 23, 2003 Vulcan Engineering did a great job of rebuilding my worn Xflow into a 155bhp engine which I am now delighted with (http://www.vulcanengines.com/). Definitely worth having a word with them. Regards, Michael. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bare Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 I'm always amazed (in Awe?) seems that here in the Staes the Pro engine builders that prep Ford engines for the remaining Formula Ford Racers have a difficult time exceeding 135 hp for units that last a Season. Obviously Skill levels are much higher in the UK ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg Posted June 23, 2003 Share Posted June 23, 2003 Bare, FF rules are often quite strict and use mostly standard GT spec bits, and the engines refered to hear are invaribaly bored to 1700 with meater cams and higher compression etc ... Greg, Q 86 NTM (Green 185BHP XF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy G Posted June 24, 2003 Author Share Posted June 24, 2003 Thanks for the recommendation Michael, contacted Vulcan today, hope to have the engine with them by the end of the week. Andy G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe 90 Posted June 24, 2003 Share Posted June 24, 2003 I asked Roger about his retirement/sabbatical and he said he see how it goes. I said he would leave a void in the market and he said he didn't know what to say when people ask him where they should go now. Crash team to the Upgradeitis ward, the withdrawal symptons are getting worse ❗ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris K Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Andy, go speak to Rob at www.pro-tune.com nice guy n will sort your engine or your conversion if that the route you decide Chris 'Heigh Ho Me Hearties' See my CAR here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted June 25, 2003 Share Posted June 25, 2003 Guys, one last engine to come out before sabatical I hope. Anyway, bike engine has got to be a greatway forward. Relatively cheap BHP. Or, second hand modified XF might be a good way to go, I can vouch first hand for Rob's engine 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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