luddites7 Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 All I have recently had my engine DVA'd and wanted to start doing some trackdays. The car is K series - what is the most cost effective (cheapest ) method of providing oil surge/airiation protection. My budget is a bit tight at the moment (so if anyone has built something from scratch for reasonable costs !!) Any suggestions would be very much appreciated Cheers Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frying Pan Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 Jason, Apologies for the newbie question, but what is 'DVA'd' I'd seen this abbreviation beofre, but had thought it was Crossflow related. You're using it in conjunction with K-Series, so I'm confused (easily done!) 7HeavenSoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Mupferit Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 DVA = Dave Andrews, engine guru extraordinaire. Brent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luddites7 Posted June 20, 2003 Author Share Posted June 20, 2003 😬 Dave Andrews Magic !!! = DVA'd Gave me a few extra horse's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caterhamnut Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 Jason, Apollo tank provides airiation protection, though not, I think, surge. We fitted one about a year ago, can't remember the cost - about £150? Pictures of instalation on my website linked to belwo, in the 'tech' section. I hope to be going the DVA route sometime soon when funds allow, but we have been investing in the 'broing' stuff first to protect the engine as much as we can - got a rad tec radiator delivered to day toreplace our old standard one New site! mycaterham.com here 42,000 in 23 months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Carmichael Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 I've not yet heard of anyone attempting a baffled sump with the K-series. There is a bit too much stuff going on in the sump to make this easy, but it is how race series that preclude dry sumping get around surge problems with other engines (touring cars etc.) Please understand that this is very theoretical and will probably cost more in development than an off the shelf proven dry sump system. Pace dry sump seems to be proving itself and is a step-up improvement over the aeration-only protection of the Apollo tank. It is still quite a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby dooby doo Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 is there enough space in the wet sump Peter 🤔 I've only ever seen the baffles on an XF sump and they seem to use a lot of space. And yes - the pace system is nice and significantly cheaper than the Caterhah system. About 1300 in total including VAT, postage, hoses, tank and laminova I think. I've not dared add up all my recipts for several years now though! The caterham system is 1700 plus vat and postage i think. HOOPY R706KGU Hoopylight R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Carmichael Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 No. There isn't room, so what I was really saying was that to get cost-effective protection from surge and aeration you need the cheapest proven off the shelf dry sump installation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Day Posted June 20, 2003 Share Posted June 20, 2003 So, is it the Caterham oil in the bellhousing route or the Pace system with the oil tank up front? Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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