MikeE Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Just out of interested can anyone give me an idea of the cost of a VHPD spec engine (including dry sump etc) cost (new or used) and where I can get one? My Superlight neeeds more power (and a dry sump). cheers, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I reply to every thread Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Blimey Graham - I'm gonna cut that one out & keep it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Carmichael Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 There is no such thing as a bad engine, just bad owners. Do you wanna sell the knackered VHPD? The Irish bloke has been a very active contributor to the sevens community for many years. Highly regarded and a great debunker of the k-series fragility myth. If you build em right and use the right coolant and keep the temperatures OK not a lot goes wrong. Geoff's current interim engine (238bhp) was assembled by said irish bloke. First decent road outing in it was this weekend on the Seven Lists "lynch the leprechaun" tour in Ireland. Last news was a cracked sump, so I think Geoff has been having some fun. Edited by - Peter Carmichael on 19 May 2003 11:40:25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Carmichael Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Graham is obviously privy to stats on engine failures that I just don't get to hear about. "virtually guaranteed to go kaboom". Baseless hyperbole. How many k-engined Sevens have been sold? How many have failed? He follows on with "how many oil system related failures". 🤔 where did this come from 🤔 What oil system problems do you get with the K? ...except when you get the engine to ingest a load of cement. Graham is obviously unaware that his other car (Subaru P1) is renowned for running big end number 1. Graham is mixing up fact too much with the personal experience from his unfortunate R500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinmaster Posted May 19, 2003 Author Share Posted May 19, 2003 Sourced a block and will start stripping at the weekend now. Seems to be the only way without a huge bill! My feelings now after owning a Superlight and a Superlight R, is that is you don't do any trackdays and are unable to control the amount of pressure you always put on the load pedel ( i can't resist it!). Then stick with a Superlight. Much nicer road car. On trackdays, in the Superlight I was always got stuck behind cars on straights, in the SLR I seem to spend all my time waiting to pass people after I catch up another group. Think I'll get an old Escort! Not selling the engine now Peter, going to give a rebuild a go. Any tips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadge Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Peter, The Irish guy wouldn't happen to be Tim Abraham? He was advertising a 1.6 K Supersport which was going to be available after the tour (I was interested in the car) Gareth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Carmichael Posted May 19, 2003 Share Posted May 19, 2003 Nope. Not Tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeE Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 Just out of interested can anyone give me an idea of the cost of a VHPD spec engine (including dry sump etc) cost (new or used) and where I can get one? My Superlight neeeds more power (and a dry sump). Previously in this thread there was lots of talk of sourcing a new engine, so can someone answer the above for me please cheers, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Piper Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 Mike, mail Mark Collins (F355 GTS) through Blatchat. He acquired a new VHPD engine recently and may be able to confirm the price. You might also think about going the Dave Andrews route for more power - at least 160 bhp can be had relatively easily I think from the 1.6 engine...or even the Caterham upgrade (can't remember what name they gave to the 1.6 upgrade)....of course you could always go the whole hog and sell your Superlight and buy a Superlight R...I've been toying with the idea of selling mine as it happens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V7 SLR Posted May 20, 2003 Share Posted May 20, 2003 My heavily tweaked but badly set-up (by me) VHPD performed perfectly all weekend. We did something like 1500 miles all at warp speeds including a lot of Irish-road shaking, flying over bridges and sliding all over the shop. I was surprised that it used quite a lot of oil (for the first time) but apart from that it was fine. I'll be keeping an eye on the oil issue. Perhaps I've just never noticed before... Worcs L7 club joint AO.//Membership No. 4379//Azure Blue SLR No. 0077//Se7ens List Tours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridgway Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 Hmm Peter, not quite sure of the relevance of the reliability of the P1 to the debate here. Unless it was required to add the necessary amount of scorn to the response. So, baseless hyperbole was it? You're talking utter twaddle again. I shall be pleased to read Peter's stats showing that the k series engine in the 7 is indeed fantastically reliable. I assume you have a basis for your rather reckless dismissal of my point of view. However, my own experience is that the engines in all 3 k engined 7's I have owned, have all gone kaboom (to use the vernacular) in their life (although only one whilst actually in my possession, lest there is a temptation to disappear into the 'owner' argument). Sorry if oil system failures was not specific enough. But if there were not oil system problems, why do we get the apollo, the dry sump, and then the combination of the 2 in the R500? Of the k engine failures, have quite a few been run bearings? Why don't we have a poll? Can we do that on blatchat? See if we can analyse people's 7 failures or reliability by engine type. Graham lest anyone take it differently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipper man Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 I have nothing against the Irish. But that Irish bloke.... Well What do you think Johnty 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVE GILBERT Posted May 23, 2003 Share Posted May 23, 2003 A Poll! Fantastic Idea... and the Wscc have it! I'll make a suggestion Steve See My Zetec Power 7(nearly up for sale!) Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Carmichael Posted May 23, 2003 Share Posted May 23, 2003 Blimey! I deleted my reply to Graham's post and now we're going to have a statistically unrepresentative poll to "prove the truth". Spare me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridgway Posted May 23, 2003 Share Posted May 23, 2003 whoops sorry Peter, we wouldn't want to confuse the matter with facts now would we? So how many k series caterhams have been sold then? I would estimate about 5000. So the big question is how many out of 5000 do we need to make a statistically significant poll? Not that many if my skool boy stats is anything to go by. Now how do we do that poll then? Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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