Paul Ranson Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 Whats wrong with an MC30 in an SME S3? Well, the S3 isn't a good arm full stop, and is mechanically incompatible with most/all MC carts. The current expensive SME arms are more suitable for MC carts but aren't ideal for an LP12 due to their lardiness. Something like a second hand Linn Akito or Ittok would be a good starting point. I actually had a Systemdek before the LP12 and in all honesty it was a better turntable - less prone to acoustic feedback. This might indicate other issues. If you can detect 'acoustic feedback' with any competent turntable then you have an installation or setup problem. I even had half of my record collection on Mobile Fidelity "Original Sound Recording" albums..... Sadly REO Speedwagon was never recorded on such media, (but Led Zep was......) Down down, deeper on down. Is there actually any example of a MFSL LP that is a musical improvement on the original? IMLE they're all audio-weenie fetish items... Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Barbie Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Paul If I could summarise your post, basically you're stating that Arnie is an audio-weenie fetishist with poorly-matched equipment that is badly setup ? Marvellous stuff, he'll be so relieved to know his problem is at least defined even if no obvious cure exists. 😬 Smokin Joe, I'm fully prepared to believe the percieved bit rate of vinyl can be a lot higher than CD. My point was that if you use all this supposed extra bandwidth to store an analog conversion of a digital signal that is at a bit rate much lower, then you'll only ever reproduce whatever the DAC output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevefoster Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 I had the same problems when we went woodflooring everywhere. 2 large rugs and it better. I am considering some wall hanging. Don't think Marie would go for a sail in the lounge. I built my own Triode push pull 20W class A valve amp as part of a group at work bulk chassis and kit build. That amp is amazing. Tested them against the best Krell could offer and the guy with the Krells put them on the market there and then... I run a MF CD player and Monitor Audio speakers. The amp controls the bass so well that I could take all of the ballast needed with the very expensive MF tranny amps I had been using. Result, deeper bass, excellent control and better sound. I tried to play bass in a band for a while so I like a good bass line. The above also plays Britney and Barbie girl pretty ofter thanks to my kids but does it with a rich powerful sound so that that rubbish is almost pleasant My racing pics, 7 DIY, race prep. Updated often here Photo's of the year here Hants (North) and Berkshire Area club site here Edited by - stevefoster on 13 May 2003 08:32:04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Ranson Posted May 13, 2003 Share Posted May 13, 2003 Marvellous stuff, he'll be so relieved to know his problem is at least defined even if no obvious cure exists. Always happy to help... (Is 'Krell' hifi? Discuss!) Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian Thompson Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 . Edited by - Julian Thompson on 14 May 2003 08:40:30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 You have to go a long way to beat a Garrard 401 and a set of Quad Electrostatic speakers fo listing to Pink Floyd! 'Ready Steady' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordy Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Count 'I think vinyl bores are up there with clamshell owners'. Yeah well I've got clams and lp's (lots of 'em) regularly spun on a nice little Pink triangle. I only buy second hand classical LP's nowadays though, everything else I buy is either CD and DVD. Just that an original 'Sticky fingers' say sounds fantastic on original LP and utterly flat and a waste of time on 'Nice price' CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Joe Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 I love vinyl and have no clamshells, sounds like the start of a song to me. Don't forget a lot of vinyl never made it to cd an artists work is lost on the next generation because of a marketing decision mmm sort of like if Caterham adopted creature comforts and replaced the 7! maybe not so O/T afterall Cheers Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Morgan Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 We could take this further O/T and develop the analogue vs digital argument into photography! Having moved recently from classic 35mm Pentax Spotmatics, to Olympus Digital, there's plenty of scope for debate, I reckon (and yes, I do have clamshells!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevefoster Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 Transistors vs tubes could be done too! I'll start... Tranny amps SUCK seems to be the general concensus. My racing pics, 7 DIY, race prep. Updated often here Photo's of the year here Hants (North) and Berkshire Area club site here Edited by - stevefoster on 14 May 2003 15:52:07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Ranson Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 At a practical physical level film is 'digital' or rather 'quantised', so the analogy breaks down. Vinyl isn't quantised in an audible way, it reaches its limit in different areas... FWIW I've been very surprised how usable 10x8 prints are from our cheapo 2 MegaPixel Fuji snap shot job. Tube amps on the other hand cost more to make than silicon, cost more to run, cost more to maintain and even then don't qualify as 'hifi'. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bare Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 What's this about Clamshells ?? Original Lotus Series 1 came with Cycle fenders.. But popular demand (a desire for a more "Fashionable Look" ? soon resulted in the Cycle fenders being discontinued.. for several decades actually.. untill revived fairly recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Joe Posted May 14, 2003 Share Posted May 14, 2003 😬Tubes,vinyl, pick up, 4 pots,cycle wings, am I describing Hi-Fi or my car! Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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