Marius Posted December 20, 2000 Share Posted December 20, 2000 I want to order a new modified Type9gearbox and was now wondering about the type of the input-shaft. Some are referred to be LONG or SHORT. I´ve got a Vauxhall 16valve powered Caterham, so what kind of shaft do I have to order, the LONG or the SHORT one ?? Thanks, Marius P.S.: Shame on those who thought something else...... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2D2 Posted December 20, 2000 Share Posted December 20, 2000 I believe that Caterham use a long input shaft because this was fitted as standard on the 2.8 Sierra, which has the semi-close ratio. This box also needs a Caterham bellhousing with the spacer. The 2 litre Sierra short input shaft box will fit but I don't know if the gearbox mount will line up. A Frame Engineering in Nelson supply a Vauxhall to Ford Bellhousing, I don't have their 'phone number but they advertise in CCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelspeed Posted December 20, 2000 Share Posted December 20, 2000 There were 2 length input shafts from Ford, long and short, related to V6 and Pinto engines, with 3.36 and 3.65 first gear respectively. To fit the Vauxhall engine in a Caterham with the Caterham bellhousing you need the long input shaft but with approx 12mm cut off the end of the shaft, ie from the smooth end bit that goes into the spigot bearing in the end of the crank. To avoid this Quaife sell 3 different length input shafts, short, Vauxhall and long. So if your box is coming from Quaife it's easy. If it's from someone else ask if they do a Vauxhall length shaft, if not specify the long one and trim it to fit. If you're using a bellhousing from someone else then obviously this advice isn't right unless the length of the bellhousing is the same as the Caterham one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Biddle Posted December 20, 2000 Share Posted December 20, 2000 Marius, I will be fitting the six speed from Quaife tomorrow in my VX car. It was ordered with the long shaft but I did not know about the possible requirement to trim 12MM off the shaft (thanks to Chelspeed). I will post the fitting details by friday, including any problems. Regards, MIKE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Spalding Posted December 20, 2000 Share Posted December 20, 2000 I've just put a Caterham 6spd box into a K-Series deDion which was from a Ford engined car Caterham. I had to take 13mm (as advised by Caterham themselves) off the end to get it to fit. Otherwise everything else is exactly the same. (I thought to myself before it was shortened "...the 5spd went in easier than this ?!") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted December 20, 2000 Author Share Posted December 20, 2000 Hi Mike, that´s what I call christmas in Dubai: a sequential 6speed in a Caterham... woooohhhoooo !!!! I´ll try to tell Steve Perks somehow to send me the right box straight-away, if I understand correctly I have to order a) a long input-shaft one and cut it or b) the Vauxhall-type right away. Thanks for all the suggestions, have fun Mike and report me as soon as possible so that I can start saving money !! Marius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark.hall Posted December 20, 2000 Share Posted December 20, 2000 Not wishing to muddy the waters, but I thought that the spacer was used if you have a long input shaft, and NOT if you have a short input shaft. Shortening the shaft is a job for an engineering firm and not something to attack with a hacksaw. If you already know this, then I'm sorry for stating the obvious. blush.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Bees Posted December 20, 2000 Share Posted December 20, 2000 Can be done with an angle grinder if you're patient. Fabulous amount of sparks!!! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelspeed Posted December 20, 2000 Share Posted December 20, 2000 The Caterham wet sump alloy Vauxhall bellhousing doesn't need a spacer it's purpose made so is the right length already. The spacer is only related to the crossflow engine. When I fitted a long input shaft 5 speed from my crossflow car to my vauxhall engine I used an angle grinder and it was fine. If you're ordering a box from SPC then just tell Steve it's for a Vauxhall and he'll use the right length shaft when he builds it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul McKenzie Posted December 21, 2000 Share Posted December 21, 2000 Don't worry!!! Steve knows what you want - at least I hope so having just picked up today my semi-helical for the VX. He'd cut the required amount(whatever that is) off the input shaft. His knowledge and skill is second-to-none, so I think we're all in for some fun with these 'boxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted December 22, 2000 Author Share Posted December 22, 2000 Paul, ordered my straight-cut-box yesterday and you are right, no need to worry, Steve knew what input-shaft I need. Well, at least it sounded like that, you´ll hear me swearing if not after the bloody expensive shipping to germany ! Thanks for your support, guys ! Marius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Peterson Posted December 22, 2000 Share Posted December 22, 2000 And that is why destiny favors the man with a long shaft.blush.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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