CPGCharlie Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 driving through the Pyrenees with three bikers in August and they have a Cardo JBL Bluetooth kit that allows for links. Does anyone have a suggestion for a Bluetooth headset that is not only for a bike helmet many thankscharlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted June 30, 2020 Leadership Team Share Posted June 30, 2020 Charlie, we have a pair of Sena SPH10 on-ear units which work very well, the only downside is that we still use earplugs so if your 7 is particularly noisy you might struggle with the maximum volume not being enough.The other alternative is the Sena Tufftalk over-ear but I've no experience of these, I know other 7ers use them though.Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldboarder Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 I've got FREECOM units mounted in Ear defenders as per https://www.lotus7.club/forum/chitchat/bluetooth-headsets-diy.They work ok. If you are crossing into France it's my understanding that headsets , in a car, are illegal.https://www.thelocal.fr/20150618/french-drivers-banned-from-using-earphones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisC Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 I have a Sena Tufftalk, a Sena SPH10 and a pair of Sena SMH5 and a Sena SR10 I started with the pair of SMH5, attached to a helmet, my car was aero at the time. I still used earplug, but the volume was more than enough to listen to music, hold conversations between driver and passenger and talk on the PMR radio (via the SR10) with other blaters. The only downside was the volume I was using because of the earplugs which meant your conversation was easily overheard by passers by, so you had to be careful of your comments ;-). When I switched to a windscreen I purchased the SPH10. The SPH10 was the most disappointing, even with all the firmware updates it has a hiss noise during use, I actual think the unit is faulty given how good the rest of my Sena stuff is. It almost prevented me from purchasing what in my opinion is the best unit, the Tufftalk.I tried fitting an SMH5 to a Peltor Optime III, it does work, but the resulting unit was a bit cumbersome. The Tufftalk has all the advantages of the other units but also includes active and passive noise cancellation. Now I can listen to music and hear real quality in the sound while driving (the boring bits) my 7. All the Sena units have batteries that last all day, but the Tufftalk comes with an interchangeable spare (and space for AAs in an emergency). The Tufftalk is expensive, so I only have one. If I have a passenger I will use the SPH10, and I will give the passenger the Tufftalk, mainly because I know how to fit earplugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAL Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 I know these are not fully Bluetooth but they might be worth your consideration. I've just fitted the Stilo DG-10 Digital Intercom along with the Stilo WRC Practice Headsets. This is not cheap but the digital noise cancellation is good. The installation procedure is not great as it which involves finding a switchable 12v power supply within a distance of the intercom box/control unit. Then you have to find a suitable place to position everything.**Update**Although the Stilo is better than the Starcom system, (much higher quality connections), the multiple wires are starting get on my nerves plus the sound quality for listening to music and phone calls is very poor. These are clearly designed for an enclosed car i.e. rally car. Back to the JAL drawing board!Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisC Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Basically if I was starting again, Two Sena Tufftalks, no wires job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPGCharlie Posted June 30, 2020 Author Share Posted June 30, 2020 Many thanks all will do some research! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative gileshudson Posted June 30, 2020 Area Representative Share Posted June 30, 2020 Link this to a cheap PMR radio, lead and PushToTalk button & Lead and you're good to go http://www.starcom1.com/kitcar-handsfree-systems.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Reeves Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Chris, how dot eh Tuff Talks work with a PMR radio ? they are indeed expensive but no wires is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Reeves Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 ooooh what went wrong there: Chris how do the Tuff Talks work with the PMR radio ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisC Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 You have two options for PMR, the simplest is a lead which plug into the Tufftalk and then into the PMR. PMR support is built into the TuffTalk (unlike any other Sena). Or you can use the SR10, which allows the PMR to be accessed by any Sena via Bluetooth. I have a SR10 because I owned it before I purchased my TuffTalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Reeves Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Will message you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david2 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 We have a pair of SENA tuff talks and they are very good, good as headphones and usefull for turn by turn guidance from your iphone when you get lost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Reeves Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 ta David, do you know where you got them from... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garth Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Another for the Sena TuffTalk. Have them and a Sena SR10 for the PMR. Can listen to music, follow satnav (best from phone - myRoute App), take phone calls, use as intercom with passenger and talk to other cars via PMR all with bluetooth and no cables connected to the headset - much easier to live with than headsets with cables plugged in!?Has anyone come across an App for the smartphone which works like a PMR but uses the mobile network? I am sure I read something about this last year but cannot remember where! Be interested to explore that more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Kay Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Has anyone come across an App for the smartphone which works like a PMR but uses the mobile network? I am sure I read something about this last year but cannot remember where! Be interested to explore that more.Private Messages sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted July 1, 2020 Leadership Team Share Posted July 1, 2020 "Has anyone come across an App for the smartphone which works like a PMR but uses the mobile network? I am sure I read something about this last year but cannot remember where! Be interested to explore that more"Sena RideConnected App (scroll down the page).It uses the data network though so be aware of charges particularly if used abroad.Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garth Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Thanks Stu - will look into it at some point!The other one to look at is Zello which I was very kindly reminded of...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangely Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Hi Garth,I noticed from another thread that you also made a DIY headset with Bluetooth intercom. How does the TuffTalk compare with that? I can see two problems with the TuffTalk:1. I can't find anywhere to buy them in the UK! The UK Sena website don't list them, Amazon is out of stock. Where did you get yours?2. PTT is on the side of the head, right? How does that work in practice while driving, having to take your hand off the wheel?More generally, I'd like to hear from someone with experience of using a boom mic in a Seven with an aeroscreen. Do they work at full-on blatting speed?Jason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisC Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 I have a DIY TuffTalk, it's ok and does the job. The biggest problem is it's bulky and the boom mic likes to fall off ( a lot ), hence in the end I purchased a proper TuffTalk, and yes supply is a major problem.As for the PTT, I am lucky or unlucky enough to have a few Sena product including the SR10, which means my PTT button can be almost anywhere I want it. I tend to on mine on handbrake. I have not used the TuffTalk built in PTT button. If I remember I will post a picture of the setup on Tuesday, I am using the setup while driving to an IVA so I will have other things on my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangely Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 That would be great, Chris, thanks. Best of luck for the IVA.Jason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Reeves Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 following chats with Chris and Garth I would go for Tuff Talk but expensive from brillbikebitz Take advantage of this time-limited offer, Alan.[eBay]Take advantage of this time-limited offerHello Alan,brillbikebitz is delighted that you're interested in this item and has sent you an offer:You can buy this item for £588.99 excluding postage until 4:35 pm on 04 JulySomeone else could buy this item, so take advantage of it while you can.Message from seller: tuff talk £399.99 SR10 £169 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAL Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Sena TuffTalk products have been removed from all European and UK markets.I have a product that I am currently testing which may answer all the needs of the Caterham owner. Watch this space!Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangely Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Thanks Alan. That seller doesn't have any either :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Reeves Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 I will borrow Garths.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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