jackb_ms Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Hello AllI have been refreshing the front suspension and it looks like i am going to need a new RH side vertical link.Is it possible to pull it off using a bearing puller?Is there an assembly / disassembly guide somewhere?CheersJack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_Arundel Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 why do you need a new part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackb_ms Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 I've ordered a new RH side vertical link from Redline.The question is can I pull the vertical link off the assembly the disk brake / front hub assembly?Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I've read both you're questions and dont understand what you're asking.The whole front hub assembly will come off the car. Top ball joint is on a taper and depending on type the bottom one just lifts out (spherical) or removes with trunion once either un-bolted. Brake calliper and track rod end need removing too.You can get a ball joint splitter into the top joint but be careful of the rubber. Dave Gemzoe sells a nifty threaded tool that wedges in below the ball joint and winds up to push the ball joint.Does that answer your question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 You will probably need to swap the stub axle over. I used my 1 tonne arbor press to do this on a friends car, it needed a lot of force and came out with a very loud bang! A bit of heat may have helped!Also steering arm to swap - dont lose / forget the spacer washer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I use an M12 connecting nut and a set bolt (obviously M12) to remove the ball joint from the upright. Best to grind off any markings from the bolt - or even better turn it down to be a little hollow. Remember to leave the nut on the ball joint undone just enough to cover the whole end of the thread on the ball joint (to protect the thread and to avoid funny things from happening when it lets go). Like Ian says: They come off with a bang!/r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Another tip is to use a non nyloc nut on ball joints to get them off (as Regin suggests above) and to tighten / pull the taper bit in so you are not fighting the nyloc when the taper is free. Once tight remove the plain nut and refit the nyloc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I made a small brass cup that fits over the threaded portion of the stub (inner end) then once firmly supported 1 swift crack with a 2lb knocking stick and out they pop.As they are on a taper its shock that breaks the lock not force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bricol Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 What is wrong with the link to need replacing? If it's minor, I might be interesting in buying it?Undoing the wheel bearing nut will allow, once you remove the brake caliper, the whole thing to slide off.Then you have to get the stub axle out - and has been said, it takes some force to do so - I borrowed a local garages press to do so as my lump hammer, or my application of it, wasn't enough to get them out.As for track rod end (or indeed the top ball joint), a good crack with a lump hammer on the side/end of the bit the taper of the joint sits in, and the shock will free the taper easily without use of nuts, bolts, or ball joint splitters. Or, with the evidence of the last 19yrs, damaging the plating as mine have suffered no affitional corrosion despite a upper joint and track rod end replacements over that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackb_ms Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 I'm stuck.The vertcal linl is not moving.Does anyone around Didcot / Abingdon as a press?Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Can you upload a picture of what you are trying to do? I'm still none the wiser as to what you're actually trying to get apart? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackb_ms Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 This is a picture of the assembly.The damage to the vertical link is on the left hand side of the picture.I am trying to separate it from the hub assembly.Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Flip it over, remove the cap. Take the cotterpin out and undo the castlated nut. You will be able to take the hub / disc off. I think you will need access to a press to get the stub axle out. You might be able to heat up the casting with a paint stripper or blow lamp and hit the stub axle, ideally with a copper faced hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM25T Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 My stub shaft came out of the upright after a clout on the end of the thread (with nut level with the end of the shaft) with a club hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Threads on the bottom of the upright look like they've been fighting....? though I would look at dressing them with a thread file first and re examine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackb_ms Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 Thank guys.I'm not comfortable doing this on my own.Would someone be availble to help?Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECR Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 There's not a lot to go wrong when doing this Jack (given that your upright is going to be replaced anyway). Give it a go... Removing the cap from the hub can be fiddly, its just a case of tapping it with a punch or even a screwdriver. Work around it a little at a time and it will pop out. Removing the disc/hub is just a case of removing the split pin and undoing a nut (which won't be tight anyway). To attempt to remove the stub axle make sure you have the nut on the thread as Ian points out, this is essential to avoid damaging the axle. Place the assembly on a steel surface (vice?) play heat over the hub where the stub axle enters it (get the upright as hot as possible minimising heating the actual axle as far as possible) and hit the stub axle/nut hard. If you can't move it you will at least have reduced the size of the assembly which you could then post to a friend for disassembly (the job isn't essential and shouldn't be a cause for breaking lockdown .... ) Courage mon brave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackb_ms Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 Thanks for the encouragement.I don't have the proper equipment to be able to do it safely.Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Jack where abouts are you..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackb_ms Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 HelloI'm in Oxfordshire, around Abingdon.I've had a go again but I could not budge it I've asked help from my local friendly garage.Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM25T Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 So you have removed the hub nut and taken the disc and hub off ... you are just left with vertical link and stub shaft mow ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackb_ms Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 I've given it to my local friendly garage who has been looking after our other car.I don't have the correct equipment to disassemble it.Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Jack, I've not really been sure what the difficulties have been, you haven't been clear.For me you had done the hard bits and broken and removed the upright from the top and bottom tapers, the removal of the cap over the hub nut is straight forwards, as is the cotter pin and the castellated nut which holds the outer bearing and hub in place, the only difficulty is knocking the stub axle free from the upright - so what bits did you get stuck with? And do you have the Assembly Guide for the car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 I think you just need a bigger hammer :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECR Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 The right sized hammer (big...) makes a lot of difference I have a builders "lump" hammer for those sort of jobs away from my workshop. At home, I'd press it out .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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