TANGO7 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I’m sure there has been much discussion regarding this, but I cannot get any past threads via the Search Function.Anyway, I am looking for any recommendations for tyres for a live axle, 4speed crossflow. The car is mainly used for touring and local runs, no track use. I’m looking for an “all round” (no pun intended) tyre which will perform well in both the wet and dry, as such ultimate grip is not the main concern, just a general good performance. Tyres are 13”/14” dia x6”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisr1718 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I run Uniroyal Rainexpert on 14". A good tyre in both the wet and dry And reasonably priced as well so won't break the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgrigsby Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 The Yokohama 021r is still a good all round tyre, great in the wet, I'm sure there must be something newer than this though.Is the Uniroyal suitable for light weight cars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisr1718 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 "suitable for light weight cars?"All I can say is that I find that they work very well in all conditions and I know several other 7 owners that also run them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TANGO7 Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share Posted December 3, 2019 Thanks. I've heard positive things about the Rainexpert. Does anyone have any experience/comment on the Rainsport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisr1718 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 From what I've heard, Rainsport are for the larger high end sports cars and suv's. Also I don't think they're available in 13"/14" sizes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgrigsby Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Looks like there is a 185/70R13 Rainexpert tyre available, the load index is similar to the 021r so they may be OK for Caterham'shttps://www.uniroyal.co.uk/car/tyres/rainexpert-3Not tried these but certainly had good experiences with the 021r's in the past, FWIW they also work quite well in deep snow :) certainly better than CR500's as I discovered to my cost on a mountain pass in Cortina many years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted December 3, 2019 Member Share Posted December 3, 2019 I’m sure there has been much discussion regarding this, but I cannot get any past threads via the Search Function.If you post the questions/ search terms here in English I'll run the searches. (Or try the second link in my Signature below.)The Yokohama 021r is still a good all round tyre, great in the wet, I'm sure there must be something newer than this though."A021R to be discontinued!"Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevehS3 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I have a set of RainSports on a K series with 14" wheels. They have no where near the dry grip of a tyre like ZZS but always feel predictable and are v good in the wet. I have never felt the streering go light even in heavy rain. The side walls feel soft so they need a bit more pressure. They provide a very supple ride on my car making them a good choice for all weather touring, accepting the limitations of dry grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgrigsby Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Strangely the 021r is still listed on the Yokohama site as a current tyre, it could be they just haven't updated it but they also seem to be available for sale on several tyres websites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted December 3, 2019 Member Share Posted December 3, 2019 https://www.yokohama.co.uk/Tyres/Motorsports-Tyres/Track-Sport-Tyres/ADVAN-A021RIs that because it's under Motorsports, rather than for use on public roads?Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opplock Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 As reported in many previous threads the 021R hasn't been E marked for a few years now due (if my memory serves me well) to changes in EU law. Idiotic in my opinion as they're a fantastic tyre but it is no longer legal to sell them for road use. You could try using non E marked 021Rs but likely to get grief at MOT time and invalidate your insurance to boot. I'll have to replace mine before long. Uniroyals and Toyo 888Rs seem to be the favoured tyres in 14". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonT Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I'm not a great fan of the Uniroyals. They work very well in the wet, cope well in cold conditions, but are very squeally and ultimate levels of grip pretty low, and they're particularly unhappy in hot/dry weather.My favourite by far are Continental Premium contacts (available in 185/60/14s), and the current set of Dunlop BluResponse (same size) aren't too far behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opplock Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I've not heard of the Continental Premium Contact before. I've just looked at Continental UK website which only offered one tyre in 185/60/14 - All Season Contact which looks like a winter tyre. The comments on here about Uniroyals remind me of hotel reviews on Tripadvisor. People seem either to love them or hate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisr1718 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 They do list the EcoContact 6 in 185/60/14 hereThats a summer tyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisr1718 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Interesting scores between the Uniroyal RainExpert and the Continental EcoContact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 HelloI use Nankang NS2R Very Good in dry and wet . Avalaible in 13" and 14" . I have them 185/60/13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 HelloI use Nankang NS2R Very Good in dry and wet . Avalaible in 13" and 14" . I have them 185/60/13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevehS3 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I have a second set of wheels with Rainsports and I must say that JonT sums them up rather well. Having said that I would buy them again as a second set as I've had some great fun with them and they do seem predictable rather than suddenly breaking-away. I wouldn't want them as my only set though as the level of grip is nothing like such as ZZS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightonuk Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 With a limited selection in the US and the Toyos being a rather expense (but Good) option what is the smallest width tire I can mount on 13" SLR rims?I am running 185/60/13s and 205/60/13s now and my only choice at this size is the ToyosI can get different brands for each size but obviously would prefer to have the same all round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I am surprised by Nankang NS2R very good for dry and wet condition, good comfort too and not noisy or tramlining . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonT Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Rats, it does look like Conti have now discontinued the premium contact in 14s :(In which case I'd suggest the Dunlop Sport BluResponse (which I've currently got on my 14s as they were much cheaper than the Contis last time) aren't a bad second. The tread pattern is very similar to the Contis and overall fairly similar I just don't think they quite offer the same ultimate levels of grip. Next time round I'll be keeping these as my "daily" tyres and replacing the RainExperts with NS2Rs that others have suggested above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevehS3 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 In 14" size the NS2R is an Extra Load XL tyre, designed for heavy vehicles. Is that OK in a 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viblue7 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I have asked this before - as I understand it"When an XL tyre is run at the pressure recommended by the vehicle manufacturer, it will last longer. These tyres are considered to have greater grip and better traction. Because they are more rigid, they will corner better and maintain stability. They also transmit power from the engine to the road more quickly, which may be an important feature in performance cars. In addition, XL tyres can provide better resistance to the extra load from acceleration and braking, and the centrifugal force from cornering. On the other hand, these tyres are usually slightly noisier than standard load tyres."They do tend to be used on SUV's and performance cars - cars that are heavier and/or put significant loads on the tyre when driven hard. Judging by the mainly positive comments on here they seem ok on a 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative admaraujo Posted December 12, 2019 Area Representative Share Posted December 12, 2019 I personally think the Nankang NS2R are appalling in the Seven... Too a crashy ride on every road except smooth track-like surfaces, and I experienced tramlining more than most, apparently. I also think the sidewalls are too stiff for the Seven. I remember mine lasted less than the 6000km I was hoping for.At the moment I am using Yoko A539, which I find great for the Seven, giving it is a "normal" tyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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