Paul Mason Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 My searching is probably letting me down, but my Fenner L210 belt on my K series Pace dry sump pump has snapped. As I sit waiting for recovery, thought I'd search how to tension the replacement while fitting but can't find an article/thread. Can anyone point me in the right direction please? Fortunately it seemed to go on start up so optimistic no damage done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted May 12, 2019 Member Share Posted May 12, 2019 I don't know the different types, but is it like the one with these instructions?Full search of the archives.Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 It's not Jonathan.The drive belt of the Pace pump is toothed. Paul: I don't know how to tighten them, but I hope your engine has not suffered from damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Member Jonathan Kay Posted May 12, 2019 Member Share Posted May 12, 2019 Thanks, Regin,Paul: Contact details for Pace technical support, and they list the kit for Caterham Ks.Jonathan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Fitting instructions here:https://caterhamsuperlight106.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/fitting-the-pace-dry-sump-system-to-a-caterham-k-series-engine.pdfbut I can't see anything on how to tighten the belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CycleSi Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 There is no way to adjust/tighten the belt. You just slide it on, but it is a very tight fit - I know as I have done it several times.I have used a little fairy liquid in the past to 'assist' fitting, but be prepared to swear quite a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 That explains why there's no instruction on how to do it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mason Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 Excellent, thanks all for your prompt advice and guidance. RJ, fingers crossed, the engine ran at tickover for about 15 seconds I think with the belt snapped. Drove it to a car show no problems, across a bumpy and rutted field (albeit slowly) where I am guessing its either had a glance off something or a twig got stuck and snapped. When I started it to leave, a slightly different "clack" to normal. Engine off. Checked oil tank (full). Started again, clack again, off again. Then checked the pump and found the snapped belt. So on the basis no issues on the way there and the fact that the belt was still in its place, makes me think it snapped either as I dawdled in to parking or as I started it to leave so hoping (and hoping and hoping) no lasting damage done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mason Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 And I'll be buying 3 replacement belts. One for the car, one for the boot of the car and 1 for the garage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 15 seconds will cause no damage on idle as you wont have had time to empty the DS tank in that time - worry not,fitting the belt is straight forward, ease 2mm onto each pulley and puch the edge of the belt with your thumb gently working around the whole belt until its on.once on they may appear a little slack, do not be tempted to shim the pump etc to tension as his will mean the belt is over tight once the engine expands when hot - resulting in the belt snapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mason Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 Thanks 7 Wonders.....I was hopeful, but still nice to hear it! The crank end pulley has lips on it so i think I'll have to do that first and then slip onto the pump end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 7WWith the Pace setup you remove the rotor of the original pump and therefore there will be no oil pressure at all if the belt snap!Paul,How much oil does your car take (I gather you have the kidney shaped Brise tank)? And how do you check level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mason Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 About 4.5 ltrs Regin and its got a Pace Easyclean cylindrical tank in front of the passenger footwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mason Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 And to check, I peer in with a torch with the engine running and look for the level to be just under the baffle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 rj,Correct I'm being a muppet, and i've run Pace in many applications too including my K........I need sleep Still be surprised if theres any damage done after that period of time, you can run an engine dry for a good while before they suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Paul, thanks.7W, you're forgiven. Happens to all of us.I would also be surprised if anything has happened. When you start up the engine after an oil change it also runs without oil pressure for a short while. Which my new engine also did today although well lubicated with assembly grease. It was clear when the pressure was built up as the revs increased. Very odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mason Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 Quick (and happy) update. Belt(s) delivered, popped one in some hot water, and "walked" onto the big pulley turning the engine with a 22mm deep socket following some advice. All went on not too bad. Started, pressure built as cranking, then straight up to 60psi on start up. Seemingly, no untoward noises, rattles, clatters or bangs so fingers crossed, a lucky escape (though didn't get chance to take it for a drive). Thanks all for your guidance, advice & words of encouragement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 That's good news Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mason Posted May 16, 2019 Author Share Posted May 16, 2019 I did breathe a sigh of relief Regin. Whilst I was convinced I had literally just started and then stopped it almost immediately, was that sliver of doubt and worry, but all seems good. Phew!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveMorris Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 I was advised how to get the DS belt on by a "Vx Guru" and it has always worked for me .. .. Get the belt onto both toothed pulleys about 5mm or so. GIve the engine a quick crank .. . and the belt pulls itself on. D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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