p.mole1 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I am sure I have read somewhere that you should fit a one way valve into the airbleed hose to stop the oil draining out of the tank when the engine is stopped. Where would I be able to get one these? I have done a search but come up blank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevehS3 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Think Automotive sell them. If you tell them what it’s for they will make sure you get the right one. I had new hoses too as it fits inline. The valve is quite expensive but the hoses are cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevehS3 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I should add that not everyone thinks they are worthwhile. They certainly stop the oil draining down though so you get immediate oil pressure on starting rather than listening to the engine grumbling for a few seconds until pressure is built up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.mole1 Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 Thanks Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I dont think the fitting kits (less tank) are too badly priced from Caterham https://caterhamparts.co.uk/oil-system/291-oilair-separator-pipe-kit.html?search_query=Separator&results=8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevehS3 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 or this discounted one if it’s just the sandwich plate needed but would need checking it is the correct one.https://caterhamparts.co.uk/oil-system/1151-oil-air-tank-pipe-package-lhd-2007-onwards.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.mole1 Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 I'm only short of a couple fittings for the airbleed and the sandwich plate, I will make up my own oil hoses. The sandwich plate is around £30 and as long as I don't use fancy anodised oil fittings it should cost too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.mole1 Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 Ah I missed that £68 from Caterham a bargain, I bought it, the last one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 These guys offer a good range of hose and fittings, used a lot of there push fit and all have been perfect.https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/torquesuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.mole1 Posted March 11, 2019 Author Share Posted March 11, 2019 Hi thanks that's a lot cheaper than Merlin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.mole1 Posted March 24, 2019 Author Share Posted March 24, 2019 I'm having one hell of job getting all this in. I have had to grind a bit of the block away above the filter housing. I have an old Lucas ACR alternator and its huge which doesn't help. The hoses are a mix of one correct hose and two hoses from a LHD car from Caterham. I think this may have an advantage as the loop will stop the oil from draining out the tank when the engine has stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.mole1 Posted March 24, 2019 Author Share Posted March 24, 2019 My fan belt is a Contitech PK755 which seems strange as it not listed for any Rover cars or Caterhams it's from a Peugeot Boxer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM25T Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Are you fitting it to an S3 ? On my SV, I ad plenty of room, and didn't have to run the hoses through the alternator belt ... I fitted the sandwich plate outlets horizontally and ran the hoses sideways and forwards. Might have a photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.mole1 Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 It's going into a S3 I looked at trying to fit the sandwich plate horizontally but the chassis rails are to close.I must admit I don't think it's a very good idea running the hoses through the fan belt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevehS3 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Through the fan belt is what Caterham’s instructions say. Looks worrying but they are rigid so it isn’t a problem and I think it’s the only way on an S3. Fit a spare fan belt around the hoses otherwise you’ve it all to take off to change it in the future. Note the tank fits in a different place on a metric chassis (in case that’s what you have). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Pre dry sump I never had an issue with the hoses / alt belt. It does seem a bit shocking but works fine.I have an apollo kit in the garage loft if you want me to measure the hose lengths.Also, a local hydraulics place will make up with new hose / old fittings for not a lot. I had the fuel line re-made between tunnel rigid pipe and fuel rail on a K series and it was less than a tenner with proper crimped collars.(Nuneaton Hose)Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted March 25, 2019 Area Representative Share Posted March 25, 2019 Fit a spare fan belt around the hoses otherwise you’ve it all to take off to change it in the future. I think you fit the new belt by loosening and lifting the Apollo and feeding the new belt into place that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevehS3 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 You are clearly cleverer that me Stephen. This is yet another’s example of me finding the hardest way of doing everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Golf Juliet Tango Posted March 25, 2019 Area Representative Share Posted March 25, 2019 SteveIt was someone here on TechTalk who pointed that approach out. I just remembered it! I haven't needed to undertake the exercise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.mole1 Posted March 26, 2019 Author Share Posted March 26, 2019 Thanks it's in but it took some time and I had to turn one of the 90 degree connectors around 180 degrees using a vice and lots of WD40. I haven't fitted a spare belt as it's still in the post! off to Mot station now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.mole1 Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 Its in, when I started the engine it was only showing 20 psi I hadn't accounted for the extra 3 liters of oil required for the Apollo and Accusump. It appears that an oil pump can pump air or at least oil froth, I loosened the air bleed fitting and oil froth escaped. The sump pan must have been almost empty. My oil temperature is also running 10 degrees cooler with the Apollo, it's going to make oil changes a bit expensive as there must be over 8 liters of oil in the engine now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevehS3 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Just checking you have got a restriction in the hose from the top of the Apollo to the cam cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.mole1 Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 I have the restriction in the top of the tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastair B Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 The coolant level looks a little high in the expansion tank IMO, the K series tends to operate without over pressurising etc. where the coolant level sits on or around the horizontal plastic seam. Just my 2p's worth, happy for others to contribute on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p.mole1 Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 Thanks Alastair I'll remove some coolant, it's a habit I had when I had a water rail leak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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