Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted January 4, 2018 Leadership Team Share Posted January 4, 2018 Duncan, you need to try harder!Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wrightpayne Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Perhaps the club should buy half a dozen or so standard bars out of their £180K+ subscription income for 2018, so new members can spec an FIA bar/boot cover with their build and borrow the Club bars to get them through the IVA test.There may be several members willing to donate their standard bars if the club bought them an FIA bar!Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted January 4, 2018 Leadership Team Share Posted January 4, 2018 Does the car need to be fitted with a rollbar to pass the IVA test?Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrightpayne Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 From what I've read on BC it will fail with a diagonal, which seems odd when you consider many vans dont have windows in the back doors!Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim 123 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 My 7 with diagonal bars passed the IVA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNC Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Hello Jim , that's interesting that your car passed its IVA test with a cross FIA Rollbar ! Where did you take it ? Because l was told by CC at Crawley that if presented to test with an FIA bar it's an instant fail due to restricted rear vision ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim 123 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Hi John, my car went through the IVA 1st time in Bristol. If you are not aware, the IVA Inspection Manual Section 8 gives details of the test criteria. There is a PDF available on line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNC Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Thanks Jim I took a quick look at section 08 indirect vision and it's possible page 7 of 8 is where there could be a problem with the cross bar ! Blanking out the center pole . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubbster Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Both mine went through SVA and IVA respectively, first with the single diagonal FIA bar and the second with the twin diagonal full cage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim 123 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Hi John, I had a look at the IVA Bible again after your post. My brain now hurts! But from my (possibly flawed) re-reading, it seems that IVA rules carry a pretty convoluted description covering many situations. However, I think the guts of this test for a Seven, is that the car centre point has to be located 60 meters away from a wall. On the wall there should be a rectangle marked out. The rectangle goes from the floor, up to the height of the rear view interior mirror. The rectangle is also 20 meters wide.If the examiner sees any obstruction to his mirror-view of the rectangle on the wall that is 60 meters behind him, it's a fail. I haven't tried to validate this from my driver seat as the car is locked and covered up, but my gut tells me that a clear view of something so far back, even with the FIA Bar, may not be a problem. Perhaps CC have encountered a very short IVA examiner, in which case I'd pop in a driver seat booster cushion to give a pass : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Geoff Brown Posted January 5, 2018 Area Representative Share Posted January 5, 2018 Both my cars - a 2001 1.6K Supersport & of late a R400D both passed the SVA/IVA fitted with the track roll bar (aka FIA Bar).In 2001 the inspector (a Mr Jobs Worth of the highest order) concluded that there was difficulty with rear vision but conceded that the door mirrors overcame the problem as long as I drove without the hood!With the R400D the rear vision was not even checked & the inspector took the car for a very spirited drive around the confines of the test centre sans bonnet without obviously looking at the rear view mirror.Both tests were at Gillingham........where the ever changing grey area IVA for Sevens exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNC Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Perhaps the IVA test station where CC go give them a hard time ! I know a couple of friends who bought 620's had trouble with noise and fit the rear silencer to get it through the test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 If you have the rear view mirror in the normal place at the top of the windscreen the diagonal does obscure the rear view, so I flipped my mirror and mounted it at the bottom of the screen akin to a central aero mirror and it clears a treat.Weather or not a central mirror is compulsory for IVA I don't know as its not for MOT so long as you have a river mirror and either center rear view or left hand mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Seems a central mirror is required for IVA according to the on line regs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNC Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I think it's the central mirror is normally fixed where the sidescreens are removable with the normal mirrors , My first seven had studding on the top hinge with a nut to stop the sidescreen from being removed ! I was told by the first owner it was done for the IVA because the tester wasn't happy they could be removed without a tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 wonders of the world Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 You have to present without the doors for IVA / SVA with the mirrors on the special stalks that mount on the windscreen pillar as the doors don't meet SVA requirements for a 2 stage door catch.If there not on they cant test them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNC Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Now you mention it !! Your right I just accepted what I was told why the hinge had the studding and a nylock nut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bricol Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Mine passed SVA (as it was in 2001) with mirrors on side-screens, secured by a nut on a length of studding through the top hinge on both sides.And of course, as soon as I removed the studding and replaced with the normal pin, I managed to somehow twice kick off the screen off as I got out, despite 10 yrs using similar cars with similar side screens . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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