Roger Ford Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Anyone know the type (and preferably source) for the throttle position sensor connector on a K-Series?Mine's been bodged with three 2.8mm spade connectors. Would be nice to get the proper connector on it.Ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Polevolt. I think it's the 3 way junior power connector, but without going into the garage I'm not 100% sure.http://www.polevolt.co.uk/acatalog/Junior_Power_Timer_Connectors.htmlYou'll also need to buy the terminals, wire seals and boot at the bottom of the page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted December 24, 2016 Author Share Posted December 24, 2016 Thanks, that looks right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apjenkins Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Hi Roger,I recently got one of these from angliapostalparts.co.uk (sorry don't know how to do linky thing!)Three pin Junior Power Connector and tails, Part No. E68. Comes complete with 12" tails all assembled with the seals and rubber boot ready for splicing into the loom.Got it from them via E-bay, About a fiver or so delivered from memory!@ndrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 If you buy the plug and terminals, you don't need to do any splicing. But you need a proper crimping tool for the terminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted December 24, 2016 Author Share Posted December 24, 2016 The wires are damaged and have been bodged, so I'll need to do some splicing anyway. I'll take a look on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted December 24, 2016 Author Share Posted December 24, 2016 The ebay ones only have 150mm wires on them. I think I need them to be rather longer than that, so it looks like Polevolt. That way I can buy the correct colour wires to match the existing ones in the loom. Don't fancy paying 43 quid for a specialist crimp tool though, so will have to rely on careful crimping with pliers. Works OK with Econoseal, so reckon it should be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 No, get a proper tool. Polevolt do a budget one for about a fiver. It's ok for the occasional job like this - I bought it last month! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vine Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 The TT310 from Polevolt (£22.50) works well with Econoseals so I can't see why it wouldn't cater for JPTs. Better than pliers which IMHO are not a good idea as they can't produce the "B"-section crimp.JV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 These are what are bought http://www.polevolt.co.uk/acatalog/info_TT70.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Whitley Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I'd buy a ratchet crimping tool for £12.49 from Screwfix as I've never had much success with the scissor type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Richard Price Posted December 24, 2016 Area Representative Share Posted December 24, 2016 Tony,No. That tool is designed to crimp closed industrial uninsulated lugs, rather than the crimps that are an open "U" that is folded inwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted December 25, 2016 Leadership Team Share Posted December 25, 2016 Roger, other than the TT70 from Polevolt referred to by Tom, all the other links are to tools not suitable for the job you're doing. However rather than the budget tool Tom's linked to, get the more mid-range one from Car Builder Solutions: http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/proper-f-crimp-crimping-toolI'll guarantee you've spent more on other tools that are less important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share Posted December 25, 2016 Thanks Stu. That looks to be identical to the one sold by Vehicle Wiring Products for quite a lot less. I guess it could be a cheaper copy, but as VWP have everything else I need I'll take a gamble on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 OK, that's done. The crimp tool didn't do a brilliant job, the JPT connectors are slightly smaller than the middle position on it. I ended up crimping the insulation part by hand, then using the tool on the wire part and finishing it with my trusty long-nose pliers.Now while I was doing that I noticed that the wires leading to the coolant temp sensor were cracking up. Cursing myself for not having noticed before I sent another order in to Vehicle Wiring Products for a 2-way Junior Timer connector and associated hardware and wires.Made up the connector, soldered up the wires - and found the connector didn't fit.See pic below:On the left we have the original connector. On the right is a 2-way Junior Timer connector. Note the cutout at the top is offset to the right on the original, but in the centre of the JT connector.I went for Junior Timer rather than Junior Power Timer based on the rear view - no built-in seals with the JT connector, but a fitting for a "boot" instead. But I'm told they're compatible anyway, and pics of the JPT connector show the cutout in the centre as well.So anyone know what this special version used by Caterham is? I can probably bodge it with a couple of 2.8mm female spade terminals if necessary, but I'd rather have the right thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revilla Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 It's Rover YPC114920 which is actually available as BMW Part No 12-52-1-427-787 Code III (the coding gives you the correct offset for the keys).Terminals are SLK 2.8 ELA, not Junior Timer or JPT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revilla Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 These are the correct crimp terminals to fit the above housing:https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-mini-parts/socket-terminal-slk-28-ela/12521427612~oem/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revilla Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Here you go: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291458243100 Sorry can't do proper links from my phone and I'm away from home at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 Excellent, thanks. Not clear from the ebay ad if it comes with the terminals - let's hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revilla Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Suspect not, that BMW part number is a bare housing but the terminals are fairly widely available if you search for "SLA 2.8 ELA". If you're really stuck I'm likely to be ordering from somewhere that sells them soon and I can add a couple to the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 Shipping for 2 x $1 terminals from the US is $48.62! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revilla Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Wow! Well I shall be ordering a pile of bits for various loom bits I'm involved with so I can just add a couple on for pennies if you want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 Same vendor has this which I think is correct, but he's only listing one of them. Whether he realy has only one, or doesn't know how to list multiple items (there was only one of the housings listed as well), I don't know. I've asked. Can't find it anywhere else in the UK, unfortunately (I presume it's SLK rather than SLA?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ford Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 Sorry, missed your previous post. Yes please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revilla Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Less than 30p here (from Finland so not worth ordering on their own but will not add any postage to my order). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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