C7JFM Posted January 28, 2003 Share Posted January 28, 2003 Just fitted the new apollo tank, including removal of a small piece of engine block (eu2) as previously described. I am worried about the two oil pipes which are touching the lower alternator mounting bar just before going between the alt. belt. There seems to no way the pipes will route a bit higher and not touch. Is it me 😳 or are they all like that sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Walker Posted January 28, 2003 Share Posted January 28, 2003 Split a small length of rubber tube to cover the alt bracket and tie wrap the two hoses down on top of this with two tie wraps. This will hold the hoses and also prevent any chaffing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Locust Posted January 28, 2003 Share Posted January 28, 2003 I was more concerned that the 5/16" half nut supplied to go inside the cam cover on the bleed hose fitting is not an 'aerotight' or equivalent shakeproof type. [paranoid/on] Where does it go if it shakes off.................................. Mine's getting fitted with a shakeproof type nut AND threadlock 😬[paranoid/off] Did you get the foam pads referenced in the build manual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted January 28, 2003 Share Posted January 28, 2003 Chris, Birdwhislter and I did not have this problem when fitting the system to his car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Birtwisle Posted January 28, 2003 Share Posted January 28, 2003 Mr Walkers advice seems sound ... As Mav pointed out we didn't have this problem. Mr Locust .... Mav and I used Threadlock (I think a Locktite product) on the nut on the cam cover. This seemed a wise thing to do as it seals the thread as well as stopping the nut from falling off. In fact we used it all on all the threaded componants when fitting the Apollo tank ... Hope this helps Cheers Alex B S713UMY 1.8K Viper Blue and Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted January 28, 2003 Share Posted January 28, 2003 blue stuff is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted January 28, 2003 Leadership Team Share Posted January 28, 2003 My car had an oil cooler fitted from new - pipes routed in the same manner. There's a piece of reinforced rubbery-plasticy stuff along the top edge of the alternator bracket - like the stuff used around car door seal but without the weatherproofing compression part. must be available from somewhere like Europa parts?? Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Locust Posted January 28, 2003 Share Posted January 28, 2003 Does the fitting of the tank have any issues about draining back and giving a delayed oil pressure build up on first starting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Area Representative Richard Price Posted January 28, 2003 Area Representative Share Posted January 28, 2003 Mr Locust I fitted my Apollo tank on Boxing Day! I have not noticed any delay in the oil pressure build up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Locust Posted January 28, 2003 Share Posted January 28, 2003 Cheers Richard! Brave man doing the deed on Boxing Day 😬 Probably would have got a right slap if I'd gone near the garage then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 28, 2003 Share Posted January 28, 2003 Mr Locust If the car is left for a while, the oil does drain back into the sump and there can be a delay of several seconds on start-up before the oil pressure builds up again. It is possible to buy a non return valve to fit in the pipe that goes to the cam box. Think Automotive sell them and I recall that there was a thread on the subject last year. pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted January 28, 2003 Share Posted January 28, 2003 It takes about 1- 2 seconds for the pressure to come up on first startup on my car. about the same on Alex's. Seems about 'normal' for cars with this system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leadership Team SLR No.77 Posted January 30, 2003 Leadership Team Share Posted January 30, 2003 But is 1 - 2 seconds acceptable at such a critical time? Stu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Locust Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 In the overall scheme of things it is about what I would have expected. Don't forget that in your average car without an oil pressure gauge the light will go out at less than 10psi That is the reason why you have the perception of instantaneous full oil pressure. If the general experience was more than about 10sec for 'full' pressure and the standard setup 'instant' then I would have been concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHRIS CLARK Posted January 30, 2003 Share Posted January 30, 2003 I hated the oil pressure build-up delay so have fitted the one-way valve set-up. Details on request!!! As to the alternator bracket fouling the two hoses, I too had that problem. The stand-off bracket is massive so it was marked with a pencil in the area that need alleviating and I then removed the bracket. I carefully ground away a suitable curved section off the top of the bracket and finished off with a file and then emery paper. Naturally, the ground away section has nice flared curves to eliminate stress points. Result? A lot more clearance and no strain/pressure on the oil pipes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Locust Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 Details would be appreciated Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C7JFM Posted January 31, 2003 Author Share Posted January 31, 2003 Chris Clark...... looks like i will be grinding the bracket down this weekend. Could i have details of the one way valve please ? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Birtwisle Posted January 31, 2003 Share Posted January 31, 2003 Mav and I used a junior hacksaw blade to remove the offending lump on the block. We then filed it down so it was smooth. Don't use any power tool that is aggressive because the ali block is very soft. S713UMY 1.8K Viper Blue and Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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